March 13, 2008
New Mexico State U. Investigates Pornography Charges in Couple's Tenure Case
An associate dean at New Mexico State University has resigned amid allegations that he e-mailed pornographic pictures to a junior faculty member who, along with his wife, was denied tenure at the university, according to a report in the Las Cruces Sun-News.
Larry K. Olsen was an associate dean in the College of Health and Social Services. James Robinson, head of the university’s health-science department — where the two junior professors work — has temporarily stepped down while the university investigates their tenure cases and the pornography charges. Mr. Robinson turned down the couple’s tenure bids after a faculty panel had unanimously voted to approve them, according to the Sun-News.
The two junior faculty members, John Moraros and Yelena Bird, told newspaper reporters that they believed they had been denied tenure because they are members of ethnic minority groups. Mr. Moraros is Greek and Mexican, and Ms. Bird, a native of England, is black.
Another professor in the college said she had seen the e-mailed pornorgraphy that Mr. Olsen is alleged to have sent to Mr. Moraros. Mr. Moraros said he complained to Mr. Olsen about the graphic sexual images in February, shortly before Mr. Robinson decided that Mr. Moraros and Ms. Bird should not receive tenure.
According to the Associated Press, university administrators told the junior faculty members that they had been denied tenure because they were not a good “fit” with the university. Students have collected 500 signatures protesting the tenure decisions. —Robin Wilson
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— marci Mar 13, 12:05 PM #
The classic catch-all “not a good fit”.
— TRB Mar 13, 12:18 PM #
…haven’t worked at too many schools that actually have a notion of identity such that they could measure “fit.”
discrimination because of minority status? or because of not liking dude’s taste in porn?
— David Mar 13, 02:12 PM #
What is “porn”? We demand to see it so we can make up our own minds.
— Armando Mar 13, 03:39 PM #
Be sure to check out the AP story and President Martin’s thoughtful comments about the student petition as a sewing circle and their concern as equivalent to a petition to turn the library into a sports bar.
What leadership! Makes me proud to be an Aggie – NOT!
— NMSU Alumni Mar 13, 03:43 PM #
Because of the weight I have gained my clothes are not a good fit, but so far I have not been kicked out of the house
— jason Mar 13, 03:47 PM #
Is anyone else confused by this story? Olsen sends porn to the couple; Robinson denies the couple’s tenure bids. What is the connection between Olsen and Robinson? What does one event have to do with the other? And why is the couple claiming discrimination when they seem to have a clearer case of sexual harassment, at least against the dean?
— geekette Mar 13, 03:50 PM #
New Mexico State and Fresno State are in the WAC. So, lots of WACky things going on.
— jason Mar 13, 03:53 PM #
I admire folks that have nothing to hide, but this is bare(ly) believable…
— GT Mar 13, 04:05 PM #
I have been waiting to hear the decision on my tenure, but like the blinding flash of thunder, I received an email from a Nigerian prince who is sending me (“this very day to you”) 87 million dollars. Now, I have a PhD, and I’ve been around the block a few times. So, I figured things out quickly. I sent Prince Umbake my account numbers and told my dean that I was officially denying MYSELF tenure. What do I care, I’m moving to the Bahamas, right? Hey, don’t forget to grade all those essays, suckers!
— Yavas Looblu Mar 13, 04:14 PM #
Since when is “good fit” a criterion for awarding tenure—or not? Oh. Right. I’m a little naive; I thought teaching, research and service had something to do with it. Sheesh…
— barbara Mar 13, 04:20 PM #
Yavas, you can’t get that 87 mil. The prince told me I was getting it. No Fair!
— markdaddy Mar 13, 04:30 PM #
isn’t that the way it always goes in academe? you open your email and …there it is…porn from your dean. you know what that means: no tenure. that tragic scenario is, unfortunately, repeated hundreds of times each day.
— Art Vandelay Mar 13, 04:31 PM #
Art is into Latex so don’t pay any attention there. It will be interesting to see what reality is here, bring on the porn!
— Jo Mar 13, 04:41 PM #
By definition, academia is a conglomeration of a whole bunch of misfits, so the reason for denial is contradictory to the academy
— jason Mar 13, 04:43 PM #
Yeah, down there at the NMSU library they’re already stocking up on fave brews n’ ales for their new sports bar. Might bring in some much needed cash to the poor place. They can barely support the programs that they have now. Just saw them tote a huge flat screen teevee through the library doors at Zuhl.
— Karen Mar 13, 04:50 PM #
No one besides me sees the connection between the porn and tenure denied? Come on people, I’m trying to help you here. Think, THINK!
Now you have it. Wasn’t it more fun figuring it out on your own. Now, a 1000 word essay on this topic is due in one week—ONE WEEK! Don’t disappoint me. Oh, and please write legibly.
— Alberto Jones Mar 13, 04:52 PM #
I wish someone would send me some porn.
— Client #9 Mar 13, 05:35 PM #
Marci continues to cheapen this site with his/her glip, thoughtless comments.
— history professor Mar 13, 06:24 PM #
It is such a burden to be an aggie and to be governed by idiots like President Michael Martin, who has such regard for students that he claims he can get 8,000 signatures to convert the library into a sports bar. How would you like to have a president who thinks that about your students?
— nmsu prof Mar 13, 08:33 PM #
The story doesn’t make sense. Needs a serious re-write to clarify what’s up.
— Ken Mar 14, 07:31 AM #
I like Marci’s glip comments. It’s the glib ones that chap my buns.
— JR Mar 14, 08:25 AM #
Wow… this story certainly brought out all of the amateur comedians.
— SM Mar 14, 08:59 AM #
Who the hell is Marci? Now I’m really confused.
— Jerry Seinfeld Mar 14, 09:25 AM #
I guess the inability to enjoy a gift of porn sent by an associate dean constitutes a poor fit. Maybe even as poor a fit to the job as an associate dean who sends porn to junior faculty.
— Starbug Mar 14, 09:36 AM #
Not a good fit? The why the hell did you hire them just a few years back? Oh I see, you never actually read their CVs? Oh you did? But you didn’t know what all the big words meant?
— Stuart Dryer Mar 14, 09:39 AM #
I agree with the history professor—Marci has no business finding humor in matters of higher education. It is a rarified air that we academics breath, and it should never be shared by barbarians and cretans. Quiet you rabble of unwashed, un-PhD’d humanity. This blog was created so the “history professor” can read himself think. Best you remember that, Marci.
— Dr. G.H. Nohumor Mar 14, 10:08 AM #
I agree with the good Dr in #27. The last thing I want when reading a blog entry about pornography in a tenure case is to have my fancy tickled. Keep your glipness to yourself Marci and leave the Internet to the anointed!
— Tracy G. Mar 14, 11:17 AM #
Obviously, the “good fit” must refer to something specific which was in the Porn! The question is what didn’t fit and where didn’t it fit. :-)
— shimon Mar 14, 11:17 AM #
Hey – I’m only reading these to see what Marci says. BTW, it does make sense — see Mr. Jones comment.
— richard Mar 14, 11:48 AM #
I was denied tenure because I was not a “good fit.” However in my case it turned out to be a blessing in disguise. I wish Bird and Moraros the best either way.
Why don’t they just put a sports bar IN the library? The librarians would sure make good use of it. ;-)
— Marian Mar 14, 12:55 PM #
Ok, these comments and this story have gotten out of hand. But I add this to the discussion…Dr. Olsen served as chair on both Bird’s and Moraros’ thesis committees (2004) and he also served on both of their dissertation committees (2007). If this harassment started back in 2004 why would they keep him in such a powerful position in their careers? It doesn’t make any sense to me. In terms of the tenure issue, who gets tenure within one year of completing their doctorate? (They both successfully defended their degrees in August of 2007) The two faculty members in question were in tenure track positions pending completion of their degrees and had only been in those positions for about a year and a half. As with any junior faculty in a tenure track role, you can be asked to leave for just about any reason and you can’t do a whole lot about it. In terms of race or ethnicity being a factor in them keeping their jobs…I am disappointed with Moraros and Bird for even making such accusations. I have known the parties in question for many many years and would not consider any of them racists. Now think about what I have presented and read between the lines of the AP wire.
— disapointed Mar 14, 02:29 PM #
While the position that Moraros and Bird are in and Dean Olsen and the department head troubles me a great deal, I’m more concerned with the way that senior administration has dealt with this.
President Martin’s comments basically said it all when it comes to how he thinks of students and their contributions. It’s those same things that pay his salary, yet he fails to remember that.
His very circular, half-assed apology that was sent to NMSU students and faculty is nothing but a letter typed up by the Communications department.
The next time Martin sends out one of his e-mails urging the community to attend athletic events, maybe he’ll remember what high esteem he has for those who do support the university.
It’s time for new leadership.
— ashamed student Mar 14, 04:06 PM #
I agree with ‘ashamed student.’ NMSU needs new leadership and deserves a better leader than a president who has such contempt for students. The administration will apologize for him by asserting that he tends to ‘speak too frankly’ but I believe that his foolish comments reflect his true feelings about students.
As for ‘disapointed’ [sic], while it is true that junior faculty on tenure track can be ‘nonrenewed without cause’ (and this nonrenewal of contract was ‘without cause’), the dean of the college admitted in public that both faculty members in question had published a number of papers and were good teachers. Now, to in effect fire someone who is acknowledged to be a good teacher and a widely published scholar (9 papers according to news accounts) seems, at minimum, arbitrary—as the official phrase goes, ‘without cause.’ Of course that’s legal, but for NMSU to stand on that legal nicetey is a very precarious position to be in from the point of view of the public’s perception. It is a power that should not be used so lightly. It makes us look very unfair.
— nmsu prof Mar 15, 09:49 AM #
Some important context is missing from this story that can be explained in the AP newswire story link within the original report. NMSU President Martin called the students’ protesting the junior faculty members’ non-contract renewal a “sewing circle”; dismissing their efforts at a petition drive as meaningless and insubstantial. He asserted that he could easily get 8,000 signatures to turn Zuhl Library into a sports bar. Once again Martin puts his arrogant but stupid foot in his mouth. He insults both the students and the library, devaluing each equally. The man only cares about athletics and schmoozing with rich folk. But what can a 5th rate doctoral granting land grant institution of one of the poorest states in the nation expect? You get what you pay for.
— quiet desperation Mar 15, 10:25 AM #
I’ve always been told you can’t believe everything you read in the papers. In the above story, there’s not much you can believe. I have known Larry Olsen for over 30 years, and Jim Robinson for nearly that long. Yes, and I know the other two parties as well. Larry is one of the hardest working people I know, has one of the most recognizable names in health education. He is loved and respected by those who know him. He doesn’t deserve this. Jim has worked hard to make the department all it can be. He has treated these people farily. He, however, has been unfairly attacked.
— a friend Mar 15, 11:44 AM #
‘A friend’ seems to be ignoring the elephant in the room: the evidence that poor ol’ abused Larry was sending pornographic emails from his faculty email address. What’s poor ol’ Larry going to claim next, that his email address was hijacked? Gimme a break.
— nmsu prof Mar 15, 02:30 PM #
If you ask me to send you something and I do as you requested, then why would you complain that I had sent it to you?
— a friend Mar 15, 05:14 PM #
Dear ‘friend’: are you serious? Since when is sending pornography on university (actually, administrative) email acceptable under any circumstances, asked for or not? I think we deserve better judgement from our deans.
— nmsu prof Mar 15, 09:29 PM #
The good ol boy system at its best! NMSU definitely faces serious issues from the very top, and it is starting to show itself through its current players. NMSU needs to have better accountability for its Regents, perhaps even better representation would be a fresh start. What a great way to start some much needed policy changes.
— For the Community Mar 15, 10:42 PM #
It would be just like NMSU to toss a president over an insensitive comment, and then land up spending hundreds of thousands to get rid of the guy and hire someone new. The real issue is what did/did not happen over at HSS.
— a skeptic Mar 16, 10:52 AM #
I am very disappointed and know all parties involved. I can’t believe Bird and Moraros would go to extreme measures to get back at Larry Olsen. He is a wonderful mentor, researcher and friend. Both Olsen and Robinson care about their students and have gone to great lengths to help their students reach their academic/professional potential. Last time I remember Bird and Moraros were trying to get back at Dr. Satya (2003)….Interesting how they turn their backs. Oh! Wasn’t Larry on their thesis committees….in 2004? I wonder why they didn’t have problems then?
— Sad Alumni Mar 17, 03:20 PM #
Again, as pointed out, the ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM: did the dean in question send or did he not send pornography from his campus email address? The media claims to have copies of pornography with his email on it. Does the dean in question deny or refute such evidence? Evidently not.
— sad professor Mar 17, 05:49 PM #
What this University requires is an outside investigation into allegations and a gathering of facts as they pertain to the issues at hand… there are personal & professional sides to all of us – there is good and bad in all of us… the personal issues aside – a person in power should not have the ability to use that power to impose their own will or agenda while impacting the livlihood and career path of others – strudents or faculty or employees. That is why there are checks and balances put into place in the form of policies and procedures …the issues are not just the obvious discussion topics discussed here but more over the core attitudes and actions or in-action of the NMSU administration. As a parent that had attempted to get someone/anyone at the administaration level to discuss two formal written complaints of discrimination, intimidation, mis-use of power & deceit that had been hand delivered to the president, provost, omsbud, board of regents & department heads…I find that it was a fulltime job to find a road to any type of discussion with the administration and it was only after repeated correspondence with the Lieutenant Governor’s Office that I was able to negotiate a sit-down meeting….these issues are still not resolved although I have hopes that there will eventually be accountability by the university administration. The point here is that it should not take a protest or intervention from a government agency to be able to intelligently and fairly discuss any issue that may arise within the university. It is the obligation – look at the university policies already in place – of each and every employee of the university to report any – no exception – inkling of threat of discrimination/harrassment/intimidation to the eoc office…if any supervisor or administartive employee fails to do so there are ramifications for those individuals – up to being relieved of their position. Seems strange to me that after hand delivering written complaints to the offices that I have indictated previously that not one individual in any of the offices returned my calls or addressed the complaints or referred my allegations to the eoc office – a direct violation of policy & procedures.
BOTTOM LINE: This beast of discrimination/harrassment/intimidation and deceit that is being fed by the administration of NMSU is too large and too strong to be tamed or caged by the students/faculty/employees and community rank and file…. it is time to regularly contact the Lieutenant Governors Office of the State of New Mexico and request in writing/email that the Governor’s Office of the State of New Mexico along with the Attorney Generals Office of the State of New Mexico bring their expertise and power to NMSU to investigate this administrations actions and inactions… this university is State and Federally funded and as such is held to the highest standards of policy/procedures and ethics. I personally applaud the students/faculty and community members who have exercised their rights to question the administartion…. as this situation moves forward I would caution that these issues remain core issues and not be muddled by personla agenda or comments. It is for the good of the entire University Community that an investiagtion ensue as quickly as possible and resolution be reached in a timely and efficient manner. I will continue to exercise my right as a citizen to request the best government agencies possible to investigate these devisive issues and respectfully suggest that you do the same… this is the only option to ensure the truth is heard and changes that are necessary are implemented.
— locked out by admin Mar 17, 09:41 PM #
The comments on this blog demonstrate the poisonous environment created by the relatively incompetent administration at NMSU. The dean of the college signs off on nonrenewal of these contracts but admits in the media that the teaching and research of the faculty in question are “very good.” They were let go “without cause,” he says: i.e., arbitrarily. So the administration endorses an arbitrary personnel decision. Then, the associate dean gets caught sending pornography over his university administrative email (the media claims to have copies with his address on them). What does the administration do? Circles the wagons and protects the associate dean. It’s a pretty slimy environment down here in aggieland.
— nmsu prof Mar 18, 09:47 AM #
Many of the facts will be hard to determine but what seems know is how the administration always seems to know best without even imagining that there are minds on campus that work better than theirs. They have agendas and thoughtful dissent or discussion be damned! This is the most top down imaged focused IHE I have seen. Oh yeah and the Chronicle should report the $165,000 settlement for the football coach’s religious bigotry.
— jo Mar 18, 12:16 PM #
Poor NMSU: here’s a university with a goon for a president, an athletics program over $5 million in debt, a sleezy associate dean who sends pornography to graduate students and faculty, and an administration that protects its own and apologizes for its overpaid and underqualified president: “Oh, you know Mike, he’s just impulsive, he doesn’t really mean it,” they say. Actually, he meant every word of it. He really does have contempt for the faculty and students.
Meanwhile, the university has a faculty that the administration doesn’t deserve, one that has won many distinguished honors for teaching and research. Unfortunately, because of its incompetent administration, it is also a very demoralized faculty.
— disgusted prof Mar 18, 12:51 PM #
Ignorance in combination with arrogance is a deadly. Unfortunately for NMSU its president and regents have a whopping dose of both. As a result we have a doltish, lumbering, malicious bureaucracy in charge of what ought to be a great university. Under present conditions we can’t even conduct a search in a timely manner. Thus, we can’t hire the folks most qualified to get us out of the mess NMSU has become. Someone with some power in New Mexico (do you hear this Gov. Richardson?) needs to get a spine and clean house at NMSU. The president, the regents and the upper administration need to go. They are small minded bullies each and every one of them. They dismiss the very people (faculty and students) that have the intelligence, investment and expertise to make NMSU something special.
— Che Mar 18, 03:26 PM #
And it’s time for the Faculty Senate to vote no confidence in Martin.
Viva la revolucion!
— Fidel Mar 18, 05:06 PM #
Hey whats this crazyness about. I have known Larry for probably 20 years. He was chair of my dissertation committee at PSU . We were always swapping emails some of it a bit offcolor but he is not mean spiriated by any streach. Jus a bit of fun.
Why would anyone a year out from their doc expect tenure. Need to earn your spurs first. Come on guys get with the program and get over it. Life is to short for such games
— len buchta Ph D Mar 22, 11:41 AM #
They were on the tenure track…what they are “expecting” is not tenure, but to not be arbitrarily dismissed for not being a good “fit”. By the way, there are also both Medical Doctors. How is that for earning your spurs first? Dean Olsen being on their committees is irrelevant to whether the administration is following procedures and investigating allegations appropriately. The real issue here is a fair investigation into what may be a very threatening environment for students and faculty across the board. In order to uphold democratic processes there needs to be an outside investigation. This is something that we all should be able to support – a democratic process that currently seems to be lacking at NMSU.
— concerned citizen of lc Mar 22, 03:39 PM #
Anyone notice the bookstore going private? Yet another major issue slipping by without any substantive discussion. It’s amazing how much the Martin administration and the Bush administration share in common. Make big decisions without discussion, dismiss any dissent and hand the mess over to subcontractors so they can profit from it.
— more and more Mar 26, 11:37 AM #
Everything is back on track at NMSU now that Walter Zakahi has been selected to head up the diversity counsel. This man is a Martin buddy that has left a remarkably diverse Communication Department in his wake. The faculty are all white, all straight, and quite conservative—definitely reflecting the great diversity of the borderlands. The new Department head is a tyrant who frequently uses students to spy on faculty, and the bizarre post-it note threats by a professor there shows how healthy the envornment Zakahi left has been.
Zakahi as a diversity expert is a sick joke—what is at work here is his blind ambition to become Dean of A&S or perhaps Exec. VP/Provost once Waded is moved out.
Zakahi is a classic Martin appointment and clearly shows the real state of affairs at NMSU.
— Inspired Mar 26, 04:05 PM #
I have been at NMSU for 15 years and while there are still areas for improvement (similar to any organization), I find that the Martin administration is much more transparent and accessible than the others we have had over this time period. Martin doesn’t shy away from dissent. The issue is evidence-based discussion. It is easy to throw out barbs and character-bashing comments. However, this approach doesn’t move anything forward. Passionate disagreement is possible without resorting to name-calling and slanderous statements.
I am not naive and certainly have seen and experienced things over the years that could shake faith in the system – but these occurrences were with different administrations. Until proven otherwise, the process needs to have a chance to work.
The comments about Walter Zakahi aren’t related to the issues raised in this article. However, I have worked with him for many years and have never seen nor heard anything from him that would suggest that he is not an appropriate leader for the diversity council.
— give the process a chance Mar 27, 04:13 PM #
You’re right, ‘give the process,’ Martin doesn’t shy away from dissent, he quashes it head-on with his inane comments. Then ‘apologizes’ by pleading that the press took the comments out of context (boo hoo!). OK, Mike, contextualize your stupid comments for us, then let’s see how good they look…
It seems that Len (jus a bit of fun) Buchta’s comments from personal experience confirm the rather sleezy character of this associate dean.
— Fidel Mar 28, 06:15 PM #
So now the ‘truth’ comes out about good ‘ol boy Larry Olsen: according to his old pal ‘Captain’ Len Buchta, good ‘ol Larry’s been sending out pornographic emails for 20 years! Makes you wonder when NMSU finally is going to get the courage to fire him.
— disgusted prof Mar 31, 08:40 AM #
The Martin admin has never been open to dissent. “If you don’t like where we are going it’s just because you don’t like change” No, I like discussion and reasoned decisions based on the evidence. Look at all the politically correct admin hires that have had to be shuffled off as they were management disasters, how many did the university give sweet deals to leave or who continue to gets deals after there performance has been demonstrated to be inadequate.
— Jo Apr 1, 04:06 PM #
I am with Jo—
“Look at all the politically correct admin hires”
It is everywhere apparent at NMSU—there numbers are legion.
And Zakahi is a relevant subject. Sorry “give the process” perhaps you are too immersed in Martin’s brand of normalcy to see the problems.
Just how diverse is Zakahi’s old department? Is “inspired” correct?
The department he left, including the diversity or lack thereof is his legacy. If it is truly all white and all straight as stated, this does not show he is capable of running a diversity counsel, as his own history suggests.
The borderland has color and diversity, including sexual diversity—departments at NMSU should reflect that.
I understand the diversity counsel is to prevent some of these scandals in the future, so I believe addressing Zakahi’s lack of diversity in his own legacy is wholly appropriate. The numbers do not lie.
Perhaps Martin’s credibility is so stretched that all administrators need to show where they stand from their past actions.
Credibility should not be given simply because a person is appointed.
— karihari Apr 1, 05:01 PM #
Geez guys, at least get your facts straight. Zahaki i isn’t chairing the Diversity Council. He is a member of the council as am I, but he’s not chairing it.
— miscreant Apr 1, 05:51 PM #
I read the postings on Zakahi and the tyrant department head and department and found it interesting. I don’t know how they are relevant to this conversation as they have done nothing inappropriate; I figure this person has never met them or would know this.
— interested Apr 2, 01:58 PM #
While the administration here at NMSU has been making abysmal decisions about all sort of things over the past few years, there is no reason to think that the university has trouble with diversity overall. Whoever this Dr. Zakahi is, he should not be made a scapegoat for the problems that are not of his making. There are deeper issues like friends hiring friends and royal compensation being given to those in the right circles of cronies. The students and professors and support staff work hard and do well with diversity and knowledge. The administrators of the university need a good bend-over exam by the governor of the state and his higher education overseers.
— zoro Apr 2, 03:41 PM #
Like watching a soap opera on TV…makes you realize that your own little problems in your real life suddenly don’t look so bad after all.
— deborah Apr 3, 05:50 PM #
Those comments about Dr. Zakahi are not necessary. Inspired, if you would take off your blinders, you would see it’s not about race, sexual orientation, or (non) conservative nature, it’s about teaching. You fail to accomplish this. Spies in the classroom are not necessary. Students free willingly complain about what a poor teacher you are and how your classes are a joke. Maybe you should stop worrying about what others are ACTUALLY doing for students and start worrying about what you are NOT doing.
— spy at large Apr 3, 09:40 PM #
Find another business “Spy”, your information is faulty… I am not a teacher at NMSU…never have been. But this did make me laugh. I am actually staff in another department. LOL—LOL—LOL…too funny.
And character and history matter—women and minorities have to establish their credibility by their legacies, by their pasts—why not Zakahi?
As one of Martin’s appointments to help future situations like this, and as an administrator, I think Zakahi is part of this story. An ironic part, given his history.
But what luck for him. His resume will now and hereafter show this work on the diversity counsel in the future. This is bizarre, when he has a record of just the opposite.
And I love how the hierarchy on this board, including you, wants to direct the conversation when it gets “heated”. GET REAL! The conversation is not something you can control. It has a life of its own. But it is hysterical watching academics try.
And that is what this is all about—power and control. There are clearly major problems at NMSU—and this has opened a place for many to emerge.
I do feel sorry for whatever faculty you assumed I was…
I hope you are not going to target an innocent in your anger—but I guess this too points to the complete mess the university is in.
So answer my question: Is the Communication Department all white? All straight? I think this IS VERY relevant in the borderlands. But apparently the administration—including Zakahi—disagree with that.
(At least until very recently when the spotlight was on them, and when a diversity counsel was formed. How fortunate for those on the counsel; what a way to cover their tracks!)
What a strange looking borderland!
— inspired Apr 4, 03:57 PM #
Spy—
Ever hear of Western Imperialism and the Doctrine of Discovery!
NMSU is clearly worse off than we thought—where is Gov. Richardson?
— Raza-man Apr 4, 04:27 PM #
What does an all white Communication Department communicate in southern New Mexico? Do they have the requisite hispanic work-studies?
Maybe pornography and racism are endemic there.
— Guadalupe Apr 4, 07:32 PM #