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« Reply #45 on: January 25, 2011, 10:12:37 AM »

I paint what I see.  For Mellin, I'll say that some useful critiques of academia itself have emerged there.  I was solicited by them to do a book, and I declined for the reasons you're suggesting, however.
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« Reply #46 on: January 25, 2011, 11:33:16 AM »

The name of this press is "The Edwin Mellen Press."  Edwin, not Edward.  Mellen, not Mellon, or Melon, or (thank you, oldassocprof, for this new one) Mellin.

Accuracy is a plus, especially in scholarship and among scholars.  Additionally if one has a professional interest in Google directing innocent/naive/hapless inquirers to this thread.

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« Reply #47 on: January 25, 2011, 11:48:44 AM »

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« Reply #48 on: January 25, 2011, 11:53:00 AM »

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Indeed, that may well be the prevailing attitude at the press.  For the moment, and for the record, I do.
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« Reply #49 on: January 25, 2011, 2:43:12 PM »

Wow. What a juicy twist.

Any chance you can upload the letter, blocking out the personal information?

It's at my office, and it's hard copy, but I'll try to provide more of a synopsis on Monday. It also came with a booklet of "author testimonials."

I'm also curious as to how they got contact information for all the conference attendees (this was a big, national conference). Did the conference provide it? Do book vendors get a copy of the participants booklet?

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Yep. I seem to remember the letter (which I didn't keep) said the conference organizers provided the contact information. I for one didn't attend the particular session in question so don't know what was said.

I find this shocking--that a professional organization would rat out its own members to help a vanity press sue someone (presumably also a member of the organization) for something said at the conference. 

If I received such a letter I would quit the organization that day and make as big a stink about it as I could. Can I ask what organization we are talking about?

Hey CHE, this is a story!

The Mellen press initiated the lawsuit against the society a little over a year ago. The Court ordered the society to provide the plaintiff with its membership list. The Mellen press used that list to start a fishing expedition because it has no witnesses to the alleged comment. Mellen is one of those entities that will sue for any reason.
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« Reply #50 on: January 25, 2011, 6:07:03 PM »

Lemme see if I get this straight-- at some academic conference, a panelist or questioner in attendance commented on his opinion that EMP is a vanity press, and this is actionable?  Any lawyers here think that Mellen has the ghost of a chance of winning such a suit?  Are not comments made in seminars and academic conference meetings covered by First Amendment protections?
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« Reply #51 on: January 25, 2011, 6:13:23 PM »

Wow. What a juicy twist.

Any chance you can upload the letter, blocking out the personal information?

It's at my office, and it's hard copy, but I'll try to provide more of a synopsis on Monday. It also came with a booklet of "author testimonials."

I'm also curious as to how they got contact information for all the conference attendees (this was a big, national conference). Did the conference provide it? Do book vendors get a copy of the participants booklet?

cc_and_grad - Fall 2008?



Yep. I seem to remember the letter (which I didn't keep) said the conference organizers provided the contact information. I for one didn't attend the particular session in question so don't know what was said.

I find this shocking--that a professional organization would rat out its own members to help a vanity press sue someone (presumably also a member of the organization) for something said at the conference. 

If I received such a letter I would quit the organization that day and make as big a stink about it as I could. Can I ask what organization we are talking about?

Hey CHE, this is a story!

The Mellen press initiated the lawsuit against the society a little over a year ago. The Court ordered the society to provide the plaintiff with its membership list. The Mellen press used that list to start a fishing expedition because it has no witnesses to the alleged comment. Mellen is one of those entities that will sue for any reason.

Thanks for providing the back story.
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« Reply #52 on: January 25, 2011, 7:16:40 PM »

Wow. What a juicy twist.

Any chance you can upload the letter, blocking out the personal information?

It's at my office, and it's hard copy, but I'll try to provide more of a synopsis on Monday. It also came with a booklet of "author testimonials."

I'm also curious as to how they got contact information for all the conference attendees (this was a big, national conference). Did the conference provide it? Do book vendors get a copy of the participants booklet?

cc_and_grad - Fall 2008?



Yep. I seem to remember the letter (which I didn't keep) said the conference organizers provided the contact information. I for one didn't attend the particular session in question so don't know what was said.

I find this shocking--that a professional organization would rat out its own members to help a vanity press sue someone (presumably also a member of the organization) for something said at the conference. 

If I received such a letter I would quit the organization that day and make as big a stink about it as I could. Can I ask what organization we are talking about?

Hey CHE, this is a story!

The Mellen press initiated the lawsuit against the society a little over a year ago. The Court ordered the society to provide the plaintiff with its membership list. The Mellen press used that list to start a fishing expedition because it has no witnesses to the alleged comment. Mellen is one of those entities that will sue for any reason.

Thanks, Edify. May I ask if the conference organization has notified its members of what happened.
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« Reply #53 on: January 25, 2011, 7:32:31 PM »

I wasn't sure which of the Mellen threads to use for this post, but this seemed like a decent option. I just received a letter from Edwin Mellen in relation to a conference I attended several years ago. Apparently, there was a session on academic publishing at this conference, and one of the panelists (according to this letter) discussed publishers, mentioning Mellen as one publisher to avoid because their books won't count towards tenure. (Note that I didn't actually attend this session or appear on the panel.) This letter is asking for "memories" of what this individual said on this panel about Mellen so that they can "seek adjudication" - I'm assuming that means legal action? I'm rather horrified by this.


Be very careful!  A colleague of mine was sued by Mellen for referring to it as "the next thing to a vanity press".  The university was named in the suit, as well.

Ursula, if you don't mind saying, what was the context in which your colleague made this claim?  Water-cooler chitchat?  E-mail to colleague?  Formal presentation at a conference?  In (published) writing, say in an article?


It was in a letter to the editor of the newsletter of his professional organization
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« Reply #54 on: January 25, 2011, 7:52:53 PM »

Wow. What a juicy twist.

Any chance you can upload the letter, blocking out the personal information?

Here are some additional quotes of interest from the letter from Edwin Mellen:

Referring to the session on academic publishing and the panel speaker: "X recommended several publishers by name; then he added that Deans would not count toward tenure books from several other publishers, whom he also named."

"I wondered where he had obtained his list of publishers, who had compiled it, and whether it is being used to prevent publication on controversial issues (or by controversial authors)."

The letter does specifically say that the society in question "has given me the address to which I am sending this letter." (I apparently overlooked that bit before.) That's an, er, interesting phrasing given what edify has posted.
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« Reply #55 on: January 25, 2011, 8:19:28 PM »

Some of Routledge's library series are not much better than Mellon, Mellen, Mellin, etc.
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« Reply #56 on: January 25, 2011, 9:42:11 PM »

I wasn't sure which of the Mellen threads to use for this post, but this seemed like a decent option. I just received a letter from Edwin Mellen in relation to a conference I attended several years ago. Apparently, there was a session on academic publishing at this conference, and one of the panelists (according to this letter) discussed publishers, mentioning Mellen as one publisher to avoid because their books won't count towards tenure. (Note that I didn't actually attend this session or appear on the panel.) This letter is asking for "memories" of what this individual said on this panel about Mellen so that they can "seek adjudication" - I'm assuming that means legal action? I'm rather horrified by this.


Be very careful!  A colleague of mine was sued by Mellen for referring to it as "the next thing to a vanity press".  The university was named in the suit, as well.

Ursula, if you don't mind saying, what was the context in which your colleague made this claim?  Water-cooler chitchat?  E-mail to colleague?  Formal presentation at a conference?  In (published) writing, say in an article?


It was in a letter to the editor of the newsletter of his professional organization

And how was the suit resolved?

CHE, are you listening? The article writes itself.
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« Reply #57 on: January 26, 2011, 1:44:14 PM »

But at least Routledge won't sue you for saying that!

Some of Routledge's library series are not much better than Mellon, Mellen, Mellin, etc.
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« Reply #58 on: January 26, 2011, 2:26:04 PM »

True that.
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« Reply #59 on: January 26, 2011, 3:55:39 PM »

So EM doesn't do peer review? At many places, that would mean that it wouldn't count for tenure, and so... what's this about? Surely they realize that this kind of thing does get around!
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