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professor_pat
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« Reply #390 on: May 29, 2016, 5:49:23 pm »

Why don't they read the instructions?

Among the various term project reports I'm grading:
Nice bibliography of which no sources are cited in text
Sources cited using terminology like "The Department of Rural Basketweaving at Southern Outer Tasmania/Ecuador talks about..." (This from a senior major.) By this point in the grading process, I've given up caring about whether they use the stipulated citation style - I just want them to formally cite at all.
No actual data reported, only a few generalizations about it
None of the required illustrations included
Etc.

For each of these, they were given explicit, very clear instructions. I just don't get it. And I think it wasn't that they decided not to follow the instructions: they just didn't read them.
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« Reply #391 on: June 15, 2016, 7:13:18 pm »

Why is "fair" always defined from your tiny bubble?
EXACTLY.

But I think we all realize these problem kids have been coddled and their reality is shocked when we place real world expectations on them.
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« Reply #392 on: June 15, 2016, 10:54:43 pm »

Why are they surprised when the material in a course you are repeating for the fifth time is not interesting?
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« Reply #393 on: June 16, 2016, 2:01:59 am »

Why are they surprised when the material in a course you are repeating for the fifth time is not interesting?

Geez. Duh. <- aimed at the student, not you!

My favorite eval quote comes from a coworker. It's something like-

"They tell the same story at the same time during the course and most of them are dumb. I've heard everything so many times *I* could teach the course."

That came from a student who had taken the course for either a fourth or a fifth time and I don't believe they passed that time, either.

Uh... no.

On a serious note and related to repeating students- I try and have a conversation with any students who are repeats and try to convince them of the need to attend class regularly, take good notes, and act as if it's the first time in the course. I also try the scare tactic and tell them what's happened to student who don't take my advice!
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« Reply #394 on: June 16, 2016, 2:55:30 pm »

How do they figure that grades of 57%, 62%, 65%, 67% and a final exam of 67.5% could EVER equal a 75% average?
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« Reply #395 on: June 16, 2016, 5:28:13 pm »

How do they figure that grades of 57%, 62%, 65%, 67% and a final exam of 67.5% could EVER equal a 75% average?

Well, 57 is clearly an outlier, and 67.5 is practically 70, which rounds up to 75, and they have an upward trend in their scores, and you totally said you would take that into account for people on the border between two grades, so it's definitely a 75.
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« Reply #396 on: June 16, 2016, 5:30:01 pm »

How do they figure that grades of 57%, 62%, 65%, 67% and a final exam of 67.5% could EVER equal a 75% average?

Unicorns counting on their hooves do magic arithmetic that way....

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« Reply #397 on: June 16, 2016, 6:20:41 pm »

How do they figure that grades of 57%, 62%, 65%, 67% and a final exam of 67.5% could EVER equal a 75% average?

Well, 57 is clearly an outlier, and 67.5 is practically 70, which rounds up to 75, and they have an upward trend in their scores, and you totally said you would take that into account for people on the border between two grades, so it's definitely a 75.

Alternatively, I see three 7s in those five numbers. That averages out into 70-something.
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« Reply #398 on: June 16, 2016, 6:29:01 pm »

How do they figure that grades of 57%, 62%, 65%, 67% and a final exam of 67.5% could EVER equal a 75% average?

Well, 57 is clearly an outlier, and 67.5 is practically 70, which rounds up to 75, and they have an upward trend in their scores, and you totally said you would take that into account for people on the border between two grades, so it's definitely a 75.

Alternatively, I see three 7s in those five numbers. That averages out into 70-something.

Yes, and magical thinking absolutely allows not seeing the four 6s.   
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« Reply #399 on: June 16, 2016, 10:18:41 pm »

How do they figure that grades of 57%, 62%, 65%, 67% and a final exam of 67.5% could EVER equal a 75% average?

Well, 57 is clearly an outlier, and 67.5 is practically 70, which rounds up to 75, and they have an upward trend in their scores, and you totally said you would take that into account for people on the border between two grades, so it's definitely a 75.

Alternatively, I see three 7s in those five numbers. That averages out into 70-something.

Yes, and magical thinking absolutely allows not seeing the four 6s.   

Maybe four sixes is twenty-four, and 100-24=76, so that's a C, right?
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« Reply #400 on: July 22, 2016, 10:11:02 am »

Why don't you just finish the exam at your seat?  Why is there a need to finish the last couple of questions at the table where I'm collecting the exams?
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