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« Reply #6225 on: April 23, 2012, 8:36:48 PM »

There's hope, even if they refuse to believe that the Moon has gravity (the topic of some of my recent "favorite" conversations).

Are they saying the astronauts wore heavy boots?

No, you see the blue cheese gets sticky in a the vacuum of space, so the boots stick to it and keep the astronauts from floating away.
Blue cheese? I should be living on the moon, then.
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« Reply #6226 on: April 23, 2012, 9:49:24 PM »

There's hope, even if they refuse to believe that the Moon has gravity (the topic of some of my recent "favorite" conversations).

Are they saying the astronauts wore heavy boots?

No, you see the blue cheese gets sticky in a the vacuum of space, so the boots stick to it and keep the astronauts from floating away.
Blue cheese? I should be living on the moon, then.

Definitely not blue.  Wensleydale, perhaps?
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« Reply #6227 on: April 24, 2012, 8:07:54 AM »

*ahem*

We are reaching the end of term here and that means extra homework in my engineering class.  This is the third try for one of my students, call him three.  Yesterday's start of class conversations follows.

Polly:  The homework for Ch X is due Monday.

Three: But don't we have homework due Friday?

Polly:  Yes, we have homework due Wednesday, Friday, and now Monday.  It's the end of term and these are short assignments, so things come quickly.

Three: But this weekend is <major charity event that involves a 24-hour endurance test>.

Polly: You've known about the other assignments for a week and you have a week for Ch. X.  Let me emphasize that these are much shorter assignments than the ones you submitted last Friday where every problem was an hour or two.

Three: But it's <charity event>

Polly:  You've known about that for weeks so you should have planned.  Remember I drop at least one homework assignment and this could be your drop.

Three: But couldn't we submit it next Wednesday?

C-student-from-the-next-row:  Just do the assignment, Three.
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« Reply #6228 on: April 24, 2012, 1:20:50 PM »

*ahem*

We are reaching the end of term here and that means extra homework in my engineering class.  This is the third try for one of my students, call him three.  Yesterday's start of class conversations follows.

Polly:  The homework for Ch X is due Monday.

Three: But don't we have homework due Friday?

Polly:  Yes, we have homework due Wednesday, Friday, and now Monday.  It's the end of term and these are short assignments, so things come quickly.

Three: But this weekend is <major charity event that involves a 24-hour endurance test>.

Polly: You've known about the other assignments for a week and you have a week for Ch. X.  Let me emphasize that these are much shorter assignments than the ones you submitted last Friday where every problem was an hour or two.

Three: But it's <charity event>

Polly:  You've known about that for weeks so you should have planned.  Remember I drop at least one homework assignment and this could be your drop.

Three: But couldn't we submit it next Wednesday?

C-student-from-the-next-row:  Just do the assignment, Three.

Attaboy/girl, C Student.
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« Reply #6229 on: April 24, 2012, 1:50:08 PM »

There's hope, even if they refuse to believe that the Moon has gravity (the topic of some of my recent "favorite" conversations).

Are they saying the astronauts wore heavy boots?

No, you see the blue cheese gets sticky in a the vacuum of space, so the boots stick to it and keep the astronauts from floating away.
Blue cheese? I should be living on the moon, then.

Definitely not blue.  Wensleydale, perhaps?

:)
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« Reply #6230 on: April 25, 2012, 10:33:08 AM »

Just taught the last class of the semester for one of my courses, in which a particular student has missed well over the number of classes allowed, did not turn in two of the five papers, and did not give the required speech.

Student:  What's my grade?
Me:  You cannot pass this class at this point -- you've missed well over the number of classes allowed, did not turn in two of the five papers, and did not give the required speech.
Student:  And?
Me:   You cannot pass this class.
Student:  Yeah, that's REAL nice! [stomping out]
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« Reply #6231 on: April 25, 2012, 6:41:51 PM »

Just taught the last class of the semester for one of my courses, in which a particular student has missed well over the number of classes allowed, did not turn in two of the five papers, and did not give the required speech.

Student:  What's my grade?
Me:  You cannot pass this class at this point -- you've missed well over the number of classes allowed, did not turn in two of the five papers, and did not give the required speech.
Student:  And?
Me:   You cannot pass this class.
Student:  Yeah, that's REAL nice! [stomping out]

Magical thinking strikes again.
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« Reply #6232 on: April 25, 2012, 8:32:08 PM »

I imagine these conversations with the student literally stomping out of the room with loud, exaggerated footsteps.  It makes me chuckle.  The only thing that would be better would be the student stomping his or her foot while they were talking.
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« Reply #6233 on: April 25, 2012, 8:36:36 PM »

I imagine these conversations with the student literally stomping out of the room with loud, exaggerated footsteps.  It makes me chuckle.  The only thing that would be better would be the student stomping his or her foot while they were talking.

I also "hear" the voice of Napoleon Dynamite.
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« Reply #6234 on: April 25, 2012, 9:15:02 PM »

There was a commercial for something when I was a kid where someone got hit on the head and then thought they were Batman. I thought of that today when talking with this kid, who seems to believe he is Matt Damon. ("I don't need to pass your class because I am going to leave school with one class left...math...and go be a movie star). I-am-Matt-Damon (IMD) is taking the class for the third time. He comes less than once week. Miraculously, he can pass (with a D, which is passing here) if he gets a C+ on the final.

Today in class they are working on a review packet, where the final is based on the packet. IMD shows up for the first time in a month.

IMD: What are we doing today?

Me: Points to the task list on the board.

IMD: I don't have an Activity 14

Me: Here you are. Do what you can and then when you are ready come get a quiz.

<IMD sits down and looks at the problems for maybe 5 minutes>

IMD: I can't do any of these. I don't have my notebook. Can I turn it in Friday for half credit?

Me: It's due at the end of the hour. There is no late work in this class.

IMD: Well these aren't possible for me to do without my notbook, so I'm going to take a zero. Gimmee a quiz.

Me: The final is in 6 days. How are you going to pass the final, based on these questions, without your notebook.

IMD: <Rolls eyes>  I'll know everything by then.

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« Reply #6235 on: April 27, 2012, 6:23:51 PM »

My favorite, from earlier this year, was from an advisee who came to me for advice on how to file a grade protest (in someone else's class).  She'd gotten a D on a major assignment.  I asked her to lay out her grounds for the protest.  She looked blank.  I said "You know, evidence that the grade assigned does not accurately reflect the quality of your work."  She hemmed and hawed, then said, passionately, "But Prof. Tractor, it's not about the evidence.  It's about this D.  I am not a D student.  A D student is just not who I am."
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« Reply #6236 on: April 27, 2012, 7:55:09 PM »

My favorite, from earlier this year, was from an advisee who came to me for advice on how to file a grade protest (in someone else's class).  She'd gotten a D on a major assignment.  I asked her to lay out her grounds for the protest.  She looked blank.  I said "You know, evidence that the grade assigned does not accurately reflect the quality of your work."  She hemmed and hawed, then said, passionately, "But Prof. Tractor, it's not about the evidence.  It's about this D.  I am not a D student.  A D student is just not who I am."
Doesn't she understand that one's actions help determine one's identity?
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« Reply #6237 on: April 27, 2012, 9:28:52 PM »

My favorite, from earlier this year, was from an advisee who came to me for advice on how to file a grade protest (in someone else's class).  She'd gotten a D on a major assignment.  I asked her to lay out her grounds for the protest.  She looked blank.  I said "You know, evidence that the grade assigned does not accurately reflect the quality of your work."  She hemmed and hawed, then said, passionately, "But Prof. Tractor, it's not about the evidence.  It's about this D.  I am not a D student.  A D student is just not who I am."
Doesn't she understand that one's actions help determine one's identity?

No.  It's about essence.  And destiny.
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« Reply #6238 on: April 28, 2012, 5:31:55 PM »

My favorite, from earlier this year, was from an advisee who came to me for advice on how to file a grade protest (in someone else's class).  She'd gotten a D on a major assignment.  I asked her to lay out her grounds for the protest.  She looked blank.  I said "You know, evidence that the grade assigned does not accurately reflect the quality of your work."  She hemmed and hawed, then said, passionately, "But Prof. Tractor, it's not about the evidence.  It's about this D.  I am not a D student.  A D student is just not who I am."

Doesn't she understand that one's actions help determine one's identity?

No.  It's about essence.  And destiny.

More like density, in this case.
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« Reply #6239 on: April 28, 2012, 5:33:49 PM »

My favorite, from earlier this year, was from an advisee who came to me for advice on how to file a grade protest (in someone else's class).  She'd gotten a D on a major assignment.  I asked her to lay out her grounds for the protest.  She looked blank.  I said "You know, evidence that the grade assigned does not accurately reflect the quality of your work."  She hemmed and hawed, then said, passionately, "But Prof. Tractor, it's not about the evidence.  It's about this D.  I am not a D student.  A D student is just not who I am."

Doesn't she understand that one's actions help determine one's identity?

No.  It's about essence.  And destiny.

More like density, in this case.

You are my density.

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