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« on: December 12, 2012, 11:27:24 AM »

It would be nice if some older colleagues would just simply retire, so there would be room to hire more women and minorities at my school.  It is such a sad shame to watch them slip away from dementia or senility.  Having to remind them of their class day and time, how many students are enrolled in a course, after telling them over and over again, simply breaks my heart.  Is there a softer way to approach these individuals about giving up academia in the sunset of their lives?   
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« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2012, 12:03:56 PM »

DNFTT.
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« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2012, 9:26:48 PM »

Send them emails over the weekend. 


(sorry LarryC, I couldn't resist)
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« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2012, 9:59:57 PM »

Well, tolerating stupidity like yours is a form of diversity, too.  Hey, aren't you...?

(That was a nearly perfect biaxial troll-bomb.)
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« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2012, 10:15:55 PM »

Is there a softer way to approach these individuals about giving up academia in the sunset of their lives?   

Did you check their gender, ethnicity, sexual orientation, and so on? You may have the most diverse faculty on the planet, but voices will shrivel, as more wrinkles appear ethnicity is hard to determine, and as they become asexual, it is hard to know is they are hetero-, homo-, or bisexual. Better check all these before whipping out the stereotypes. Did I forget anything? I am getting older by the minute. The bad news is: so is EVERYONE. Keep that in mind. Then again, if you are already 30, you are probably contemplating retirement, right?
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« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2012, 10:34:09 PM »

Send everyone over thirty to a Paradise Camp!

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« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2012, 7:29:39 PM »

Have them take a ride on the carousel.
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« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2012, 10:32:50 AM »

Unless you are a Dean, Provost, President, best friend, or share the same bed with any of those colleagues, I would follow larryc's advice and DNFTT!!! Rather than seeing a lack of memory or energy, I would look toward these colleagues as a source of inspiration and experience, seeking their advice when complex situations arise. (Yes, I am a mid-30s tenured prof full of relatively youthful energy, but without the 30+ years in the field these colleagues have. I look to them regularly for support, advice, and conversation, the type of human contact that helps to set our profession apart from so many others... Don't pity your colleagues for their age; appreciate them for their contribution.)

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« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2012, 5:04:37 PM »

Couldn't these statements themselves be indicative of a person who would violate laws against elder discrimination in the workplace?  Aren't you attempting to create a harmful work environment for them? Your whole theme sounds pretty ageist.  SHould you consult an attorney?
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« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2012, 6:35:21 PM »

Unless you are a Dean, Provost, President, best friend, or share the same bed with any of those colleagues, I would follow larryc's advice and DNFTT!!! Rather than seeing a lack of memory or energy, I would look toward these colleagues as a source of inspiration and experience, seeking their advice when complex situations arise. (Yes, I am a mid-30s tenured prof full of relatively youthful energy, but without the 30+ years in the field these colleagues have. I look to them regularly for support, advice, and conversation, the type of human contact that helps to set our profession apart from so many others... Don't pity your colleagues for their age; appreciate them for their contribution.)



The troll here is the OP.

Please leave the troll to itself and DNFTT.
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« Reply #10 on: December 19, 2012, 10:42:35 PM »

I feeds what I wants.
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« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2012, 6:26:05 PM »

Maybe you can convince your older colleagues to just run away.
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« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2012, 10:44:42 PM »

Bojangles is a master troll.
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« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2012, 2:23:11 AM »

Bojangles is a master troll.

Naaa.  Bo is just whiny.  Trolls post to get people riled up, they don't beg for validation.
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« Reply #14 on: December 23, 2012, 12:22:06 PM »

Bojangles is a master troll.

Naaa.  Bo is just whiny.  Trolls post to get people riled up, they don't beg for validation.

Truth--I think Bo was a regular--but whiny--forumite, who when she didn't get validation decided to become a troll. Just my take.
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