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« Reply #15 on: December 11, 2012, 3:44:44 pm »

No reason to believe a more expensive player will be correspondingly better.

How about couple the Sansa with a good external portable amp, or a really fantastic external speaker (like this one).

Or read the reviews of more expensive ones at the website I linked. - DvF
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« Reply #16 on: December 11, 2012, 3:58:05 pm »

I avoid Apple products, but one advantage the iPods have is that there are many external speaker systems designed to fit with them.  With the Sansa, I have to plug it in to the external source input of a regular speaker system, and you can't charge it at the same time as playing it.  That's inelegant.  But these days if I'm at home I play music through my computer anyway. 
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« Reply #17 on: December 11, 2012, 4:01:00 pm »

Reading this thread with special interest.  Teen Son's old Sansa Clip is wearing out, and I am considering either the Sansa Clip+, Zip or Fuze.  I thought my top choice would be the Fuze because it comes in a 16GB model, but the many reviews on Amazon are mixed and tending toward negative.  Not being much interested in these devices myself, I am having trouble discerining the differences between the Clip+ and Zip.  Sticking with Sansa for him because he gets most of his music from Rhapsody, and I am not in the mood to go up a price point or two for him at the moment.

Any guidance is appreciated.
   
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« Reply #18 on: December 11, 2012, 5:30:12 pm »

I avoid Apple products, but one advantage the iPods have is that there are many external speaker systems designed to fit with them.
In other words, Apple has a proprietary connector and many systems are available in versions which works with this connector.  Whereas all other mp3 players use a generic 3.5mm connector, which will work with any powered speaker other than the Apple-specific ones.  To me this seems like an argument against Apple, but maybe that's just me.

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  With the Sansa, I have to plug it in to the external source input of a regular speaker system, and you can't charge it at the same time as playing it. 
It has separate usb/charging and earphone-out ports.  Are you saying that if you have the earphone-out port connected to a speaker system, you can't charge it through the USB port?  If so, is this true in Rockbox too? - DvF
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« Reply #19 on: December 11, 2012, 5:43:44 pm »

I avoid Apple products, but one advantage the iPods have is that there are many external speaker systems designed to fit with them.
In other words, Apple has a proprietary connector and many systems are available in versions which works with this connector.  Whereas all other mp3 players use a generic 3.5mm connector, which will work with any powered speaker other than the Apple-specific ones.  To me this seems like an argument against Apple, but maybe that's just me.

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  With the Sansa, I have to plug it in to the external source input of a regular speaker system, and you can't charge it at the same time as playing it. 
It has separate usb/charging and earphone-out ports.  Are you saying that if you have the earphone-out port connected to a speaker system, you can't charge it through the USB port?  If so, is this true in Rockbox too? - DvF

I avoid proprietary hardware when possible, but when you go to the store to buy speaker systems for portable music players,they are nearly all Apple based.  It's annoying.

When my Sansa Clip+ is charging through it's mini-USB connected to my computer, it won't play.  I haven't tried connecting to a non-computer charger, so it is possible that it might charge and play at the same time with the right charger.  I don't know about Rockbox.
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« Reply #20 on: December 11, 2012, 6:44:45 pm »

I avoid proprietary hardware when possible, but when you go to the store to buy speaker systems for portable music players,they are nearly all Apple based.  It's annoying.
So don't buy at the store...

Incidentally, the speaker I linked to above (http://minirigs.co.uk/) is only barely portable (72mm x 101.6mm and 424g), but it is better in fidelity and volume than any other powered small speaker below the B&W MM-1 (which is bigger and $500).  Input is 3.5mm jack.

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When my Sansa Clip+ is charging through it's mini-USB connected to my computer, it won't play.
OK, I found this explanation (and solution).  Next time I talk to my son I'll ask him about Rockbox. - DvF
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« Reply #21 on: December 11, 2012, 9:34:56 pm »

My wife has a Sansa, and it's a nice unit, but it uses a proprietary connection, not a mini- or micro-usb adapter.  I hate nonstandard power adapters--my iThings' power and sync cables annoy me.
Is that the Fuze?  The Clip+ is standard mini usb. - DvF

Yes, it was the Fuze. Thanks for the memory reminder. I was trying to look at Sansa's product line, but found it hard to find info on the USB connector.
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« Reply #22 on: December 16, 2012, 9:18:23 pm »

I LOVE my Cowon D2 player. The sound is extremely sharp, great video, and the player is solid.
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« Reply #23 on: December 17, 2012, 9:22:52 am »

I've gone for the Archos Gmini.  Partly because I really liked the one I had years ago in terms of usability and robustness.
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« Reply #24 on: December 26, 2012, 4:57:03 am »

Get a sandisk Plug n play usb mp3.. There's a bunch of similar products like that at walmart, amazon or tigerdirect.
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« Reply #25 on: February 04, 2016, 11:45:10 am »

I have been looking for a replacement for some old Sansa/Sandisk mp3 players that I use to listen to audiobooks.  One of the newer models, the Sandisk Clip Sport, doesn't seem to work with Audible.  I'm having trouble getting my hands on anything that might work.  Does anyone have a new mp3 player that works with Audible? 
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« Reply #26 on: February 04, 2016, 5:07:49 pm »

Your could poke around head-fi.org; they have discussions and do reviews of portable sound equipment.

Cell phones have pretty much killed the mp3 player market.  You might consider buying a cheap or used smartphone for this purpose; even a phone without cell service should still work fine as an mp3 player.  (My Lumia cost under $30 new, and has pretty good sound and a gps that needs no connectivity to work; it was so cheap because it was sold as an AT&T go-phone, but I do not use the AT&T service.)

Fiio still makes some dedicated players. My son has a Fiio headphone amp and I have a Fiio DAC sending sound from our TV to our stereo, both are excellent. - DvF
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« Reply #27 on: February 04, 2016, 6:37:44 pm »

I can't find it again but I just recently saw a link to some piece about people reviving old iPods because there really is no functional equivalent these days.

DvF has it--get a cheap smartphone and use it as an MP3 player. Or perhaps one of the smaller Kindle Fires?
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« Reply #28 on: February 04, 2016, 7:00:09 pm »

I can't find it again but I just recently saw a link to some piece about people reviving old iPods because there really is no functional equivalent these days.

DvF has it--get a cheap smartphone and use it as an MP3 player. Or perhaps one of the smaller Kindle Fires?

I carry around an iPod Touch circa 2011 for listening to podcasts AND a iPod shuffle for listening to music. Despite the fact I have a Mac, an iPad, and both of those, I have some weird attachment to my Android phone and thus won't switch and make my life easier by being able to run all these things on the same piece of electronics.

But I kind of love having my Touch as my podcast thing. I just carry it around in my pocket to listen to and it rarely needs charging because it isn't my phone. I don't have a car, so I walk around listening to it a lot. I use it as my e-reader as well when I unexpectedly find myself without my Nook (maybe my life would just be easier if I committed myself to one ecosystem).
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« Reply #29 on: February 04, 2016, 7:09:54 pm »

The new Kindle Fires allow you to use an SD card, which makes them much more usable.  I listen to podcasts on my Kindle Fire and I have a bunch of audiobooks.  Obviously they must work with Audible since Audible is owned by Amazon.

I also use my Android phone for audiobooks, mainly with ones I download from my local library.  Although they are meant to expire after two weeks, they don't. So there's no hurry to listen to them.
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