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dolljepopp
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« Reply #30 on: February 24, 2007, 8:16:54 PM »

prince, I've always heard the same thing about PhDs having the title first, but I can't offer a citation, as that would imply I have done something academic today...
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« Reply #31 on: February 24, 2007, 8:22:44 PM »

I am with Smurfette on this one.
We met a MD/landlord when apartment hunting; he called us by our first names and introduced himself as "Dr..." (this seems rude, regardless who one is talking to). I immediately pointed out that we were "Dr..." and "Dr..." as well. Of course, we did not take the apartment.
For the most part, I don't care, even though I also come from a coutry where titles are everything. And when I became an Assistant Professor right after my PhD studies, the reaction by family friends was "oh, hu is an assistant now". Hehe.
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« Reply #32 on: February 24, 2007, 8:30:06 PM »

Your majesty/brillance/magnificence any variation are all acceptable.
Which will be replaced by Dr.,  some day.
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« Reply #33 on: February 24, 2007, 8:37:36 PM »

prince, I've always heard the same thing about PhDs having the title first, but I can't offer a citation, as that would imply I have done something academic today...

OH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! ;-)
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« Reply #34 on: February 24, 2007, 9:05:14 PM »

Field Marshall C.  It seems more casual.
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« Reply #35 on: February 24, 2007, 9:08:51 PM »


Field Marshall C.  It seems more casual.


Shouldn't that be "Field Marshall von C?"
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« Reply #36 on: February 24, 2007, 9:12:59 PM »

I'm Mrs. Bocky, Queen of the World.

But seriously, I use "Dr." only on forms that require I select a title, because I am neither a Mrs. or a Ms., being a mother and all.

It's so confusing being me.

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« Reply #37 on: February 24, 2007, 9:22:04 PM »

Since I was 16, when someone asks my name I tell them "Leon Trotsky." It's amazing how few people know who that is.
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« Reply #38 on: February 24, 2007, 9:26:21 PM »

Well, this is the USA, dark globe. You can't expect anyone to know those communist reds!

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« Reply #39 on: February 24, 2007, 9:27:52 PM »

Well, this is the USA, dark globe. You can't expect anyone to know those communist reds!

cbl, patriotic

Yes, but they must have watched Monty Python!
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« Reply #40 on: February 24, 2007, 9:28:50 PM »

I'm not so sure anymore. Now they watch The OC.
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« Reply #41 on: February 24, 2007, 10:37:14 PM »

My mother-in-law is so excited about Mr. Dee's upcoming defense, that she is already referring to him as "My son, the doctor."  I find this really annoying.  I'm not sure why.  It's almost like she's trying to make it sound like he's a medical doctor, and I think what he's accomplished is so fantastic that I don't think it needs to be likened to being a medical doctor.  Of course, he will be a doctor, and that's great, but I'd be more comfortable with "My son, the professor."  But she says he already is a professor because she doesn't get that being an adjunct (even when you teach 2 or 3 courses per term) isn't the same as being a true member of the faculty.
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« Reply #42 on: February 24, 2007, 11:48:01 PM »

It's almost like she's trying to make it sound like he's a medical doctor, and I think what he's accomplished is so fantastic that I don't think it needs to be likened to being a medical doctor. 

Anxiousdee, that's realy funny. My husband quit a PhD program to become an MD and he always says that grad school was way harder than med school.  He still doesn't know how I was able to finish a dissertation!
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« Reply #43 on: February 24, 2007, 11:49:47 PM »


As far as the title usage between M.D.s & Ph.Ds, I was under the impression that historically they co-opted the title from us.  That is, ph.ds have been around longer than mds, and when mds started up they grabbed the title to glom onto the prestige of the professoriate.  Can anyone confirm/refute this?

Oooh, I would love to find out if this is true... If anyone figures it out, please post :)
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« Reply #44 on: February 25, 2007, 12:08:51 AM »

This is what I sent to "interested parties" after my defense:

http://www.dctech.com/physics/features/0203.php

It's not a proper citation, I know, but it made me feel less defensive (pardon the pun).

Here are two proper citations that may or may not help. I haven't read the articles yet, although I intend to, now, after this discussion:

Cude, Wilfred. The Ph.D. Trap. West Bay, Nova Scotia: Medicine Label Press, 1987.

Schatte, Curtis Eric. "The Persisting European Heritage of the American Ph.D." Improving College and University Teaching, 25, 2, 75-8,81, Spr 77.

(Citations from ERIC.)
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