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Author Topic: C.C. of Allegheny County Cutting Adjunct Loads to Avoid Affordable Care Act Cost  (Read 8458 times)
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« on: November 21, 2012, 11:27:30 AM »

http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2012/11/20/college-cuts-adjuncts-hours-avoid-affordable-care-act-costs
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« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2012, 1:55:52 PM »

This is telling:

"Benjamin said he also worried about the decisionís impact on the collegeís mission. If enrollment holds steady or increases, he said, the college will have to hire more adjuncts with smaller course loads but perhaps less of an investment in campus life than those who teach more courses."

And, in the context of the article, really provides a clear example that adjunct does not mean "something added to the main thing but not part of it" but rather "inexpensive, disempowered, yet committed and regular."

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« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2012, 10:28:52 AM »

What they are doing shouldn't be a surprise.

The school claims they can't afford the changes that ACA would bring if they keep these faculty at 30 hours. Why couldn't this be means tested?



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« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2012, 3:21:49 PM »

Presumably the magnificent education funding of Gov Corbett and and the PA Republican majority up to their usual stupidities.
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« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2012, 2:29:38 PM »

So nothing like this will happen in states that have elected mostly democrats?
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« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2012, 3:53:09 PM »

And under the Affordable Care Act, they will be able to get health insurance through the mandated state exchange.  Means testing would be especially good if it calculated costs to the state, either way. 

That is, this is what happens in many states whose politicians posture about cutting costs to big bad education budgets, but they end up costing the taxpayers in other ways, anyway.
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« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2012, 10:15:06 PM »

And under the Affordable Care Act, they will be able to get health insurance through the mandated state exchange.  Means testing would be especially good if it calculated costs to the state, either way. 

That is, this is what happens in many states whose politicians posture about cutting costs to big bad education budgets, but they end up costing the taxpayers in other ways, anyway.

So whichever arrangement costs the public the least is the best one. Except that the president thinks that adjuncts who work teach more courses have more of an investment in campus life, which is important to the school's mission.
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« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2012, 11:11:35 PM »

At the same time, the legislatures have a perfect excuse to cut funding for education if many college professors are saying that 2/3 of them are not really qualified.
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« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2012, 1:04:12 PM »

So nothing like this will happen in states that have elected mostly democrats?


It is not happening in my blue state of CT.
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« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2012, 2:50:26 PM »

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So nothing like this will happen in states that have elected mostly democrats?
It is not happening in my blue state of CT.

This isn't happening in CA either, but I wonder what private colleges will do. I work as an adjunct at a CC with health care benefits, but my private school counterparts do not have this luxury. One of the main reasons I wanted to work for a CC was the good pay and benefits as opposed to the bad ones at the local private colleges.
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« Reply #10 on: November 25, 2012, 9:07:14 PM »

And under the Affordable Care Act, they will be able to get health insurance through the mandated state exchange.  Means testing would be especially good if it calculated costs to the state, either way. 

That is, this is what happens in many states whose politicians posture about cutting costs to big bad education budgets, but they end up costing the taxpayers in other ways, anyway.

So whichever arrangement costs the public the least is the best one. Except that the president thinks that adjuncts who work teach more courses have more of an investment in campus life, which is important to the school's mission.


Re your first sentence:  Correct in my state, entirely run by the GOP now.

Re your second sentence:  Which president?  Your college president or the president that my governor and legislators think is a socialist?
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« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2012, 8:25:56 AM »

I meant the president of the Community College of Allegheny County. Actually he was being quite candid in my opinion to acknowledge the  benefit to students of adjuncts who are "more invested in campus life" than those who are less so and the circumstances leading leading to either situation. The normal thing for admin's to say is "we use adjuncts to fill in the gaps."
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« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2012, 10:28:12 AM »

That is why I suggested a means test. The college president states that they cannot afford the employer provided health insurance provision that ACA intends, but there's always the possibility that he is mistaken.
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« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2012, 2:09:22 AM »


What do you think of it?
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« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2012, 10:03:22 AM »

I meant the president of the Community College of Allegheny County. Actually he was being quite candid in my opinion to acknowledge the  benefit to students of adjuncts who are "more invested in campus life" than those who are less so and the circumstances leading leading to either situation. The normal thing for admin's to say is "we use adjuncts to fill in the gaps."

Um, the quote about less investment in campus life was from Clint Benjamin, who is an English adjunct at CCAC. I didn't see any quotes from CCAC administration in the article, just something brief about costs from a campus spokesperson.
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