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« on: May 02, 2012, 8:01:07 PM »

What do you think about it?
Does it affect the quality of the program?
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« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2012, 9:09:59 PM »

What are you asking?  If it's wise to have a Master's Program (and in what, exactly) that doesn't require students to submit GRE scores?
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« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2012, 9:23:44 PM »

Shouldn't this be on the Grad School Life board rather than the Non-Tenure Track board?

In addition, I second Tuxedo_Cat's questions.
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« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2012, 9:39:02 PM »

Not clear on the question either.

At my school we implemented a GRE requirement for our History MA about 6 years ago. Not a requirement for a minimum score, simply that you take the test. Enrollment immediately plummeted, to the point where the admin tried to eliminate the program. Students who we knew to be excellent undergraduates, easily capable of grad work, would tell us "I really wanted a History MA, but when I saw that GRE requirement..."

So we dropped the requirement, and there has been an instant explosion of interest in the program. I have no idea why the GRE scares folks so.
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« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2012, 9:46:36 PM »

We require the GRE and only waive for our own undergraduate students applying to our graduate program.
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« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2012, 10:29:27 PM »

OP, are you trying to get the fora to do your homework?
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« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2012, 7:32:21 AM »

Many universities do not require GREs, they exist outside the US and have good programs.
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« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2012, 7:35:18 AM »

Many universities do not require GREs, they exist outside the US and have good programs.

But I don't think that was the question. I think the OP wants to know if not requiring the GRE is a sign of a weaker program.

I'm amazed at Larry's prospective students who aren't taking the GRE by default. Is it not a typical requirement of most grad programs in the US then?
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« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2012, 8:09:10 AM »

They weren't required in my programs, and I don't believe either the Master's program (in Boston) or my doctoral program would be considered "weak".
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« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2012, 9:25:58 AM »

I think part of our motivation may be to provide a uniform metric, particularly for foreign students for whom it is difficult to map grades to our scales (we have tables and Indian and Chinese faculty who help, but there is a large variance across schools).  It also seems to deter most of the for-profit undergrads from even applying to our CS and CoE degrees; I've had several ask me at industrial recruiting days if their UofPee or DeVry degree means the can waive the GRE.  I say no, and we never hear from them again.
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« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2012, 9:28:47 AM »

I think part of our motivation may be to provide a uniform metric, particularly for foreign students for whom it is difficult to map grades to our scales (we have tables and Indian and Chinese faculty who help, but there is a large variance across schools).  It also seems to deter most of the for-profit undergrads from even applying to our CS and CoE degrees; I've had several ask me at industrial recruiting days if their UofPee or DeVry degree means the can waive the GRE.  I say no, and we never hear from them again.

Perhaps too this is another "field specific" question? As in some fields need GRE's to establish a baseline, while other programs can do it via a writing sample/professional portfolio?
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« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2012, 9:35:32 AM »

My first master's program required that one take the GRE, but did not require a minimum score. Preparing to take the GRE, traveling to take it, and paying for it was consuming, stressful, and expensive, and I do not see the relationship between my ability to take that high stakes exam and my ability to succeed as a graduate student.

Then again, my cohort consisted of students who had been willing to jump through that hoop, which meant we were serious students.
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« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2012, 12:07:59 PM »

If there are other criteria in place instead of the GRE as replacement metrics; then probably not. 
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« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2012, 12:13:09 PM »

OP, are you trying to get the fora to do your homework?

I think TZ got it.

Larry, I too am surprised by the experience at your program.  Is it the only program to which most of the applicants apply, or do they apply to other schools as well?
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« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2012, 4:36:13 PM »

I did not realize I posted my question here, but your comments help me a lot.  I would like to clarify that I was surprised by the fact that our new Master program in Foreign Languages decided not to include the GRE among the applicants’ requirements. I was wondering about a negative academic effect of the exclusion.  I see from your posts that it is not necessarily the case and that, as Larry says, there is a bad feeling about the test among undergraduates.  By the way, I see also the number of applicants is very high... and the acceptance as well.
   
 
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