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chicago_48
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« Reply #15 on: May 01, 2012, 9:17:33 PM »

Sorry, but I was too busy to let the students know before today.  But, it just so happens that after I sent the email out to the students (who were absent), one of them magically appeared in high heels and a fur stole, and said she was downstairs at a party.  In other words, she got the message in time to get to class and sign in.
There are "some" students (mainly the ones that the email was addressed to) who have not shown up for class like they should; have a 50% absence rate.
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« Reply #16 on: May 01, 2012, 9:18:03 PM »




(((                                )))


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Don't mind him. I ate his brains.

Also, you are all disqualified.

From the circus? Now that's bad.
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« Reply #17 on: May 01, 2012, 9:20:23 PM »

By disqualified, do you mean that they won't be allowed to turn in the take-home assignment or that they won't be able to take the final exam or what?

Was this regularly scheduled class time? It sounded like it in your first post, but I'm not sure from your last post. Or is this the scheduled time for the final, and you just today told the students that they had to come even though they have a take-home assignment instead of an in-class exam? This is rather confusing.
The "projects" is from the book, it's the Capstone section of a book.  There's no way I can take their books from them, is there?  So the requirement is that they show up for class (attendance) and have the work ready uploaded online by XX deadline.
I've become more jaded the more I teach at the community college.  Especially about absences.
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« Reply #18 on: May 01, 2012, 9:22:28 PM »

Where the heck was this class held if students are "downstairs at a party?"

From the original post, what about the reference to "2 days?"

What does "disqualified" mean exactly?

Did they not know at all until this morning that they were supposed to show up today?

Did you send out the email during class?


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« Reply #19 on: May 01, 2012, 9:22:40 PM »

Sorry, but I was too busy to let the students know before today.  But, it just so happens that after I sent the email out to the students (who were absent), one of them magically appeared in high heels and a fur stole, and said she was downstairs at a party.  In other words, she got the message in time to get to class and sign in.
There are "some" students (mainly the ones that the email was addressed to) who have not shown up for class like they should; have a 50% absence rate.

Dude, did you fall off the high wire and conk your head? You can't disqualify students from the final for not showing up to class to get the project instructions with no notice except an email sent the same day. Did I get that straight? I mean, you can, but you are absolutely begging for trouble, and not for nothing, but admin is most likely going to side with the students on this issue if they should complain, which most likely they will.
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« Reply #20 on: May 01, 2012, 9:23:19 PM »

Sorry, but I was too busy to let the students know before today.  But, it just so happens that after I sent the email out to the students (who were absent), one of them magically appeared in high heels and a fur stole, and said she was downstairs at a party.  In other words, she got the message in time to get to class and sign in.
There are "some" students (mainly the ones that the email was addressed to) who have not shown up for class like they should; have a 50% absence rate.

I would penalize them for not attending regularly scheduled classes, but not for one that was announced only that afternoon. Policies need to be stated clearly in advance. Not everyone checks email obsessively every five minutes, and some students who have only take-home finals leave campus early and finish their work at home. Is this an evening class? Do some of your students commute? Short notice could be problematic for work/travel schedules for students who don't live on campus or who have families.
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« Reply #21 on: May 01, 2012, 9:24:02 PM »

Dude, did you fall off the high wire and conk your head?

Attitude! Disqualified!
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« Reply #22 on: May 01, 2012, 9:24:24 PM »


The "projects" is from the book, it's the Capstone section of a book.  There's no way I can take their books from them, is there?  So the requirement is that they show up for class (attendance) and have the work ready uploaded online by XX deadline.
I've become more jaded the more I teach at the community college.  Especially about absences.

So what does "disqualified" mean?  What are you going to do to the students?
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« Reply #23 on: May 01, 2012, 9:24:53 PM »

Popcorn, I smell popcorn.
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« Reply #24 on: May 01, 2012, 9:25:21 PM »

Sorry, but I was too busy to let the students know before today.  But, it just so happens that after I sent the email out to the students (who were absent), one of them magically appeared in high heels and a fur stole, and said she was downstairs at a party.  In other words, she got the message in time to get to class and sign in.
There are "some" students (mainly the ones that the email was addressed to) who have not shown up for class like they should; have a 50% absence rate.


You can't change the rules mid-game. Have a clearly-established attendance and assignment completion policy from day one and abide by it. Changing an assignment's parameters with a few hours of notice is not acceptable or fair to your students.

I don't know if you're a mean teacher, but your story certainly suggests that you've made a pretty serious error in judgment with this.
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« Reply #25 on: May 01, 2012, 9:26:21 PM »

This is the best thread in a long time. It's like a circus.
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« Reply #26 on: May 01, 2012, 9:31:55 PM »

Dude, did you fall off the high wire and conk your head?

Attitude! Disqualified!

Disqualified?!
Does that mean since he conked his head, his braaaiiiins are no longer edible?
(bruised, like a rotten apple, I suppose?)
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« Reply #27 on: May 01, 2012, 9:33:28 PM »

Okay, never mind, no popcorn.

If you disqualify the zombies, do the ghosts win by default?
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« Reply #28 on: May 01, 2012, 9:34:45 PM »


If you disqualify the zombies, do the ghosts win by default?

Don't disqualify me! I am your flower-smelling, field-gambolling friend! That other one is just trynna be like me.
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« Reply #29 on: May 01, 2012, 9:36:55 PM »


If you disqualify the zombies, do the ghosts win by default?

Don't disqualify me! I am your flower-smelling, field-gambolling friend! That other one is just trynna be like me.

Don't get excited.  It's an...ahem...academic question.

Chicago_48, in spite of the play, we're truly interested.  Are we misinterpreting what happened here?  If we're right, then as Heynonny says, you're not a mean teacher:  you've simply done something very very bad.  At my institution, the students would file a complaint, and the administration would uphod the students.
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