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coalminecanary
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« on: February 18, 2012, 08:39:46 AM »

I currently have the type of student that I dread the most, and would appreciate advice. This student is the type who constantly needs to confirm every piece of informatiom ("So, you said project x is due next class session, right?"), runs to ask me a question at every break, shows up every time I am in my office with a question that could be easily answered with a small amount of effort, and follows me around like a puppy. She has even tried to follow me to the restroom on a break so she could keep talking.

I have tried asking her to save all questions for one time, setting time limits when she visits the office, and directing her to use resources (syllabus, schedule, textbook) to no avail. I have tried to give her cues (lukewarm demeanor, arms crossed). It has failed. Students have access to our cell phone numbers for clinic hours and are told not to call outside of clinic hours. She texted me at 11pm a few nights ago. It was in no way an emergency, and I let her know it was inappropriate. I have also discovered that this has been her pattern of interaction with other professors in my department. I have been direct and told her she needs to work independently. It is coming to the point where other students who have legitimate questions avoid approaching during breaks because they know she will run up to me. She seems to require constant reassurance and hand-holding. That is not possible.
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coalminecanary
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« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2012, 08:41:20 AM »

Apologies for the title. I meant "issues" and apparently have a proofing "issus" when I am upset.
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« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2012, 10:43:38 AM »

Have one more come-to-Jesus talk with the student with her advisor present.  Explain that part of the process of college is being able to function without constant handholding.  Explain that you will answer only three questions from her per week that are procedural and could be answered by reading the syllabus, schedule, and/or textbook.

Then, stick to your guns. 

"I am talking to these students, Needy.  You may come tomorrow during student hours at 3:15 pm and ask questions for 10 minutes."

"Needy, that's your fourth question this week.  Go read the syllabus and answer it yourself.  Write me an email tomorrow if you have a clarification question that I must answer."

Subtle isn't going to work with this student.  You must say, "You've used up your time for today.  Come back <definite time and place> if you want to ask another question."

Do not let monopolize break time.  Do not answer texts as they come in.  Do not answer emails immediately.  Don't ignore the student, but set boundaries yourself.  Don't let her bulldoze you.
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« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2012, 10:59:30 AM »

She may have Aspergers, which would mena she is very poor at picking up on the sort of hints that you've been using.  Aspies just don't notice them.  If that is the case, the best thing you can do is be very direct--Polly's suggestions would work. 
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coalminecanary
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« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2012, 11:43:29 PM »

Thanks to both of you! I will put the suggestions to good use.
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« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2012, 02:31:50 AM »

"Susie, knock it off. You are making me nuts and you need to tone it down. I have other students who need my attention. Goodbye. "
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« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2012, 11:54:34 AM »

She may have Aspergers, which would mena she is very poor at picking up on the sort of hints that you've been using.  Aspies just don't notice them.  If that is the case, the best thing you can do is be very direct--Polly's suggestions would work. 

Or another learning disability.  You have very closely described my daughter, who needs the type of hand holding you describe or she can't continue to work on the project (or even a problem).  It's like there's a wall that prevents them from moving forward.  I think you need to make clear to her as nicely as possible, what is appropriate.
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