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« on: February 02, 2012, 12:19:52 PM » |
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A bunch of my colleagues received rejections yesterday for a R1. These were first round rejections (no phone call, etc.)
I received nothing. I know, I know. I shouldn't worry and should work on my dissertation (or have a shot of vodka).
I'm wondering, though, if it is common to send general rejections out first and then contact people for interviews.
I'm guessing they either lost my application or I'm just stuck in the limbo of "Well, we will discard her later." From what I've read, it seems like those who are to be interviewed are called first.
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Mountainguy (on rejection letter thread):
This sounds very Foucauldian. "You do not apply to search committee; the search committee applies to you!!"
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« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2012, 12:31:18 PM » |
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If the rejections were by letter, yours may be delayed in the mail.
If by email, then either they're doing them in batches and yours may come today, or they forgot to send one to you, or JUST possibly they're holding back some candidates "just in case" the current finalists flame out. But I have to say this is probably pretty unlikely. My university won't let us send out rejections to anyone until the new hire is official, so if anyone gets a rejection, everyone (except the hire) should be getting one.
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« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2012, 12:44:07 PM » |
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My university won't let us send out rejections to anyone until the new hire is official, so if anyone gets a rejection, everyone (except the hire) should be getting one.
Mine has the same policy. Except that sometimes the clerical worker who handles the logging and managing of the hundreds of applications forgets to remove the e-mail of the successful candidate from the spreadsheet used for generating those form letters of rejection, so s/he gets one of them too. Fast panic phone call to chair. Quick soothing by the chair, also asking if new hire has yet received the city map and other relocating information which is supposed to be promptly sent. |
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« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2012, 01:13:43 PM » |
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My university won't let us send out rejections to anyone until the new hire is official, so if anyone gets a rejection, everyone (except the hire) should be getting one.
Mine has the same policy. Except that sometimes the clerical worker who handles the logging and managing of the hundreds of applications forgets to remove the e-mail of the successful candidate from the spreadsheet used for generating those form letters of rejection, so s/he gets one of them too. Fast panic phone call to chair. Quick soothing by the chair, also asking if new hire has yet received the city map and other relocating information which is supposed to be promptly sent. I would totally panic if this happened to me. I'd like to think that I've become more mellow and sanguine about search-related communication after my 3 years on the market, but this would throw me for a loop. WCG, I've been in the not-contacted, not-rejected position a few times, and have never gotten an interview in any of those circumstances. |
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A little compassion is better than kicking people when they are down, regardless of who has suffered more and longer or whose bad job market has the biggest dick.
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westcoastgirl
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« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2012, 02:27:04 PM » |
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This is what I suspected. Oh well. On with work. It's nice to hope, anyway.
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Mountainguy (on rejection letter thread):
This sounds very Foucauldian. "You do not apply to search committee; the search committee applies to you!!"
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« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2012, 04:21:10 PM » |
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You can conclude nothing.
Move on.
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leobloom
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« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2012, 04:28:24 PM » |
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While you're at it, try dancing a little to the tune of "Limbo Rock". Youtube must have it. It may soothe your mood a bit.
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westcoastgirl
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« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2012, 05:55:03 PM » |
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I'll probably be flamed for this, but I wish some of you, with your snarkiness, could have experienced the difficulties of the current job market. I wonder if you'd appreciate the mockery.
But thanks for the laughs.
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Mountainguy (on rejection letter thread):
This sounds very Foucauldian. "You do not apply to search committee; the search committee applies to you!!"
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« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2012, 07:32:19 PM » |
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I'll probably be flamed for this, but I wish some of you, with your snarkiness, could have experienced the difficulties of the current job market. I wonder if you'd appreciate the mockery.
Um, 7+ year veteran of the job market here. The best advice I can give you is to give into the mockery instead of the bitterness. It'll be hilarious after a few more years on the market simply because you'll be in the group going, "Dang, doesn't anyone ever do the reading? How can people still ask that question that's been answered nearly every month for the N years I've been reading here while looking for a job?" You will appreciate the writings of the people trying to make the "do your reading" point in new ways. Trust me on this one. Oh, and yeah, you can't conclude anything from not getting a rejection letter when someone else did. I've gotten rejection letters that basically stated "You didn't follow instructions and we've got plenty of people who did follow instructions. Try again next time". I've also gotten letters that were clearly a "we'll reopen the search instead of hiring you" based on the timing of the readvertised position and my rejection letter. |
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« Last Edit: February 02, 2012, 07:33:09 PM by polly_mer »
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If you haven't got either the anatomical or metaphorical balls to post your own question on a pseudonymous internet forum, then academia is the wrong job for you.
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« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2012, 10:18:24 PM » |
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I'll probably be flamed for this, but I wish some of you, with your snarkiness, could have experienced the difficulties of the current job market. I wonder if you'd appreciate the mockery.
But thanks for the laughs.
Are we reading the same thread? Nobody's been anything but supportive of you here that I can see. If I were you, I'd take leobloom's advice repeatedly. |
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Correct, as usual, TZ. That's because you are not Dude. TZ, however, is Dude. TZ is my favorite. I wish YOU began with A. |
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« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2012, 10:49:52 PM » |
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I'll probably be flamed for this, but I wish some of you, with your snarkiness, could have experienced the difficulties of the current job market. I wonder if you'd appreciate the mockery.
But thanks for the laughs.
Oh, for crying out loud, you're ABD. What the heck did you expect? Finish your diss and apply next year. |
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Systeme_D is right. <rah rah RESEARCH!> |
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westcoastgirl
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« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2012, 10:51:12 PM » |
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I'll probably be flamed for this, but I wish some of you, with your snarkiness, could have experienced the difficulties of the current job market. I wonder if you'd appreciate the mockery.
But thanks for the laughs.
Oh, for crying out loud, you're ABD. What the heck did you expect? Finish your diss and apply next year. Oh for crying out loud, I know quite a few people who've been there, done that and scored the job ABD. And yeah, I'll be proceeding as you suggested. |
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Mountainguy (on rejection letter thread):
This sounds very Foucauldian. "You do not apply to search committee; the search committee applies to you!!"
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msparticularity
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« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2012, 11:18:01 PM » |
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I'll probably be flamed for this, but I wish some of you, with your snarkiness, could have experienced the difficulties of the current job market. I wonder if you'd appreciate the mockery.
But thanks for the laughs.
Oh, for crying out loud, you're ABD. What the heck did you expect? Finish your diss and apply next year. Oh for crying out loud, I know quite a few people who've been there, done that and scored the job ABD. And yeah, I'll be proceeding as you suggested. Yes, but as you've said elsewhere, you are lacking not only in the degree, but significantly lacking in pubs. In the absence of the degree, SCs look for promise of research capacity, and I've gathered from your posts elsewhere that you do not have anything to signal that. IOW, it may be time to stop comparing yourself to those others. |
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fedscholar
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« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2012, 11:48:31 PM » |
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West Coast Girl,
There are folks hanging around here an order of magnitude more qualified than you. They are struggling too, I can assure you. We empathize, but believe me, you have not yet paid your dues.
Welcome to the forum, but don't expect too much largesse from folks who have been in this market longer than you were in graduate school.
If you want to delude yourself that you are so super outsizedly awesome that the laws of supply and demand should bend to your will, and you don't need to actually finish, publish, and hone your draft to land the uber job ,go ahead. They just might. ABDs do get hired. But acting entitled will not endear you to folks here.
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leobloom
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« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2012, 12:27:01 AM » |
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I'm on the market too, and I'd like to make my peers turn away a bit from the dark chaos below, just like from time to time some posts make it look to me slightly rosier than I saw it before. The academic job application process has, under some circumstances,the potential to break even a strong-willed individual. Let's try to make this experience as pleasant as possible for all of us, considering. And learn something useful in the process.
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