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« on: February 01, 2012, 11:41:14 AM » |
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I've just come back from a campus visit and I really liked the department, students, and location and I find myself really hoping that they'll make me an offer. I'm going to send professional thank you emails to the faculty with whom I met and work on submitting a revise/resubmit to a journal (i.e. try to make myself a more attractive applicant), but, how do I avoid sabotaging this?
Or maybe you can tell me stories about how you've seen this sabotaged so that I can spend my time laughing in the fora rather than fretting on my computer?
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« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2012, 12:07:01 PM » |
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I'm not sure how you could "sabotage" anything at this point. The decision is entirely out of your hands. Just relax.
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« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2012, 12:13:00 PM » |
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I've just come back from a campus visit and I really liked the department, students, and location and I find myself really hoping that they'll make me an offer.
I was just wondering the other day how things were going with you, as I hadn't seen you around these parts lately. Congratulations on the campus visit! What you've written sounds promising and I think it would be hard for you to sabotage anything at this point. Fingers crossed that it will come through. |
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A little compassion is better than kicking people when they are down, regardless of who has suffered more and longer or whose bad job market has the biggest dick.
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« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2012, 12:14:01 PM » |
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new_Anth
Best of luck to you.. the only thing to do now is wait... hard to do, but have confidence in yourself-- I'm sure you were amazing!
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litdawg
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« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2012, 01:12:56 PM » |
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Leave contact up to the hiring department after you send those thank you notes! Waiting is hard, but it's your only option.
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The heart of the wise man is tranquil. Chuang Tzu
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new_anth
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« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2012, 09:17:39 AM » |
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Thank you emails sent (and one responded to!). But, even more tellingly, I did some cybersleuthing, found out who the other candidates were and, holy smokes, they're good. They're farther along in their careers and have impressive CVs. In fact, it's an honor to have been selected to compete against them.
This can mean only one thing: I need to work on that revise and resubmit I've been tinkering with and get that out there.
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« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2012, 10:04:03 AM » |
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Sabotage stories:
There are the usual stringing-out-the-negotiations stories.
Or you could take a second campus visit "to show the spouse the town," ask for an outrageous amount of supplies/research monies, and demand that the school hire your spouse and set up a minor for them to run.
I suppose you could also sabotage it by making a "s*** [That school's] People Say When Interviewing" video.
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« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2012, 11:26:54 AM » |
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Stay out of the newspaper? And more generally, don't make waves. Keeping in mind that they'll be contacting your references if you're the lead candidate, now would be a good time to bake cookies. ;)
Jon
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« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2012, 08:17:27 PM » |
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@Jon: They contact references even after they've gotten the letters of reference?
I feel confident that my letters are quite positive, but it surprises me that they'd be contacted again since I imagined that what SC do now is weigh all of the feedback from the various campus visits and make a decision based on that.
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« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2012, 09:06:50 PM » |
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@Jon: They contact references even after they've gotten the letters of reference?
I feel confident that my letters are quite positive, but it surprises me that they'd be contacted again since I imagined that what SC do now is weigh all of the feedback from the various campus visits and make a decision based on that.
Some places do, yes. Some don't. Good luck! And I hope you didn't kidnap the school mascot as a good luck charm on your way out of town after the interview. |
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« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2012, 09:19:04 PM » |
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This is incredibly hard to do, but the best is to keep it out of mind.
Though -- just in case of the joyful possibility that you get a surprise phone call from the Dean with a job offer:
do NOT overtly accept it on the spot. Say that you're very excited and interested, and then would like to see in an email some more details about the offer to help you with the process. Ask for specifics, including salary, startup, moving expenses, and other allocations. Then you can reply to the email or give a call back to work things out.
In the meantime, do your homework on what people there get paid, so that you know what a good and fair offer truly is.
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« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2012, 02:30:16 AM » |
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I'm not sure how you could "sabotage" anything at this point. The decision is entirely out of your hands. Just relax.
It is always possible to sabotage a job application, and at this point most of the things the OP could do to sabotage it involve contacting the search committee for some ill-considered reason. The thing to do to avoid this is to just not do anything and wait for word. |
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