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Author Topic: Job Hunters- Don't do this. Ever.  (Read 7880 times)
sockpuppy10
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« on: January 24, 2012, 09:55:07 PM »

The other members of the search committee and I just received this e-mail:

Hi,

A job candidate you recently interviewed asked to have this letter sent on his/her behalf and is utilizing this anonymous message service because he/she knows that writing personally would burn bridges.

The candidate never received a response from you about the outcome of his/her candidacy.

As you probably know, most job candidates put significant time and effort into preparing for a job interview: Many spend hours reading up on your company and industry and thinking about how they could best offer something of value to you. They may take a day off work and spend time and money traveling to you. And then they wait ... and wait and wait, anxiously hoping for an answer, any answer.

A quick email or form letter letting the candidate know he or she is no longer under consideration -- that's all it takes. Candidates deserve that. And so does your organization, which looks unprofessional when you leave candidates hanging.

On behalf of your past and future candidates, won't you please reconsider your practices?

Sincerely,
A Fellow Hiring Manager
www.emailyourinterviewer.com

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Really?  I understand that an academic search is not as quick or transparent as everyone would like, and that job seekers can get frustrated.  But we are careful to explain the practices  _as laid out by HR_ to everyone we phone interview, and when applicants contact me, I try to give as much information as I can, ethically and legally.

Our searches aren't that big; we only did a handful of phone interviews and haven't yet had on-campus ones.  I'm choosing to believe this message was prompted by someone who didn't make the first cut; otherwise, it's going to be very hard to look at the other phone interviewees in a positive light.

Oh, searches, such fun for all!
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systeme_d_
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« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2012, 09:58:03 PM »

Wow.  What a maroon.
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erzuliefreda
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« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2012, 10:26:27 PM »

Actually, that's pretty funny. Was your search updated on the wiki perhaps?
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hungry_ghost
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« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2012, 11:11:15 PM »

This made me laugh.
Then I went to the site and laughed some more.
An evil person could have some fun with this.
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« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2012, 11:15:37 PM »

I'm going to guess why Dr. Anonymous didn't get the interview. Anyone who would do this is going to have issues that come across in a CV or cover letter, or something. Oh my, this is out there, even outside of academia, let alone in.
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« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2012, 11:28:24 PM »

I agree with all of you that the letter is crazy.

However, there is an issue when a university will not inform people after their phone interviews that they won't be hired, even if that university will not allow SCs to go back to those who didn't make the cut. I just don't understand why we can't let applicants know in a timely manner that they won't be invited for a campus interview for the job they applied for.
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« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2012, 02:14:03 AM »


Sockpuppy - you included a link to the website that generated the anonymous letter.  I will ask an MM to remove the link.
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« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2012, 05:36:23 AM »

Once again, the fora helps me feel better about my own job-hunting acumen.
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« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2012, 06:15:07 AM »

The internet makes self-sabotage so very easy.

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« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2012, 07:33:28 AM »

Once again, the fora helps me feel better about my own job-hunting acumen.

Yep.  I have emphasized teaching at a research place or research at a teaching place as well as wearing my heart on my sleeve about how very much I want to live in that small town while I teach/do research, but I've not done anything that clueless.
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If you haven't got either the anatomical or metaphorical balls to post your own question on a pseudonymous internet forum, then academia is the wrong job for you.
hungry_ghost
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« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2012, 09:20:05 AM »

Sockpuppy - you included a link to the website that generated the anonymous letter.  I will ask an MM to remove the link.

Sorry, but I don't understand, why is this a problem? If you look at the site, you'll see that the URL is part of the email that OP copied into his/her post. Given the subject, which discourages people from making use of this service,  it seems unlikely that sockpuppy is advertising the "free service" offered by this site.
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sagit
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« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2012, 09:53:28 AM »

Sockpuppy - you included a link to the website that generated the anonymous letter.  I will ask an MM to remove the link.

Sorry, but I don't understand, why is this a problem? If you look at the site, you'll see that the URL is part of the email that OP copied into his/her post. Given the subject, which discourages people from making use of this service,  it seems unlikely that sockpuppy is advertising the "free service" offered by this site.

I agree.  I don't think posting the URL in this context is against any of the rules on this fora.  We post links to articles and blogs.  Why would this be different?
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larryc
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« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2012, 10:36:51 AM »

The answer to stupid HR rules is for those of us on SCs to update the wiki ourselves.
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optimisticfungus
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« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2012, 06:38:56 PM »

I think those of us in the job market can relate to the sentiment in the letter, but we wouldn't be brazen enough to follow through.
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harrapsempire
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« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2012, 07:26:08 PM »

There's also:

 Search Committee members, don't do this. Ever:
http://www.insidehighered.com/advice/2012/01/23/essay-foreign-language-competency-new-phds-languages
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