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« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2012, 10:49:25 AM »

I don't really know :)

I was just hypothetically speaking.

On the separate note, just for my curiosity on this process : if the SC ranked each  candidates after the phone interview, say candidate A got 75/100 and ranked 5th. Would A's "score" and rank get lowered if A send a " inquiry email"? Unlikely, right?

I'm on the applicant side, but my impressions is that no one is giving me a numerical score and ranking me that way. Sure they may rank me 5th, but probably based on a more holistic evaluation, not some rubric. And how do you know you have already been ranked before sending that inquiry e-mail?
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« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2012, 01:05:01 PM »

On the separate note, just for my curiosity on this process : if the SC ranked each  candidates after the phone interview, say candidate A got 75/100 and ranked 5th. Would A's "score" and rank get lowered if A send a " inquiry email"? Unlikely, right?

I've been on SCs at two different schools and we've never used a scoring system like this.  Did they tell you they were using a numeric system?
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« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2012, 03:37:01 PM »

Filmcam, I've been on almost a dozen search committees, and I want to let you know that you're thinking about search committees and rankings in the wrong way.

When an applicant does things that are outside of the norms and expectations of an academic search, like contacting the search committee, it makes the applicant look like s/he was not well-socialized into those norms.  No one wants to work with someone who doesn't know how to "act right."

So yes, contacting a search committee at an inappropriate time or for an inappropriate reason can definitely jeopardize one's candidacy.  But it's not a numbers game.  It's a "feeling" game, as in "something about this applicant doesn't feel right."

When it comes down to it, Filmcam, search committees are looking to hire someone they believe can achieve tenure at their institution, but they are also looking for someone they believe they can work with.  That elusive quality is often called "fit," and truly means "fitting in."  Think about that.
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« Reply #18 on: January 23, 2012, 04:02:40 PM »

Filmcam, I've been on almost a dozen search committees, and I want to let you know that you're thinking about search committees and rankings in the wrong way.

When an applicant does things that are outside of the norms and expectations of an academic search, like contacting the search committee, it makes the applicant look like s/he was not well-socialized into those norms.  No one wants to work with someone who doesn't know how to "act right."

So yes, contacting a search committee at an inappropriate time or for an inappropriate reason can definitely jeopardize one's candidacy.  But it's not a numbers game.  It's a "feeling" game, as in "something about this applicant doesn't feel right."

When it comes down to it, Filmcam, search committees are looking to hire someone they believe can achieve tenure at their institution, but they are also looking for someone they believe they can work with.  That elusive quality is often called "fit," and truly means "fitting in."  Think about that.

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« Reply #19 on: January 23, 2012, 08:12:06 PM »

I was just guessing by my own...

You are right, they probably will not make things so complicated.


On the separate note, just for my curiosity on this process : if the SC ranked each  candidates after the phone interview, say candidate A got 75/100 and ranked 5th. Would A's "score" and rank get lowered if A send a " inquiry email"? Unlikely, right?

I've been on SCs at two different schools and we've never used a scoring system like this.  Did they tell you they were using a numeric system?
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« Reply #20 on: January 23, 2012, 08:18:23 PM »

Thanks a lot, System_D.

I think I will listen to someone who served on a dozen of SC and follow the norms!

I really appreciate your input, and those of others. You reply indeed answered my question: there might be a negative effect if I contact them now. So I will wait, and let you guys know in the end if I get the onsite invitation after all.

Filmcam, I've been on almost a dozen search committees, and I want to let you know that you're thinking about search committees and rankings in the wrong way.

When an applicant does things that are outside of the norms and expectations of an academic search, like contacting the search committee, it makes the applicant look like s/he was not well-socialized into those norms.  No one wants to work with someone who doesn't know how to "act right."

So yes, contacting a search committee at an inappropriate time or for an inappropriate reason can definitely jeopardize one's candidacy.  But it's not a numbers game.  It's a "feeling" game, as in "something about this applicant doesn't feel right."

When it comes down to it, Filmcam, search committees are looking to hire someone they believe can achieve tenure at their institution, but they are also looking for someone they believe they can work with.  That elusive quality is often called "fit," and truly means "fitting in."  Think about that.
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