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« Reply #15 on: January 10, 2012, 05:14:10 AM »

I did three interviews in the UK/Europe and I already had a job offer from a UK university which I'd like to go. I'm just saying I probably couldn't find this match in the US. Sorry if my post confused or "offended" you.

Weneed: OK, so we misinterpreted your OP, but it still  carried a holier-than-thou attitude. Can you not understand why you came across as arrogant? Your second post, with its quotation marks, only compounds that. I pity your colleagues if you take such a I-am-a-God-in-comparison-to-you-pathetic-non-Americans attitude to your (potential) new job. I have the "honour" of working with such a person, and her attitude drives us all crazy. Anything different to how things are done in the US is automatically inferior. I'm not saying that things are perfect in UK Universities -- I'm sure there are many aspects that could be improved by looking to other Universities in the US and throughout the world -- but her closed mind just opens her up to ridicule and rolling eyes when, for the umpteenth time, we get the "in America we..." speech.
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« Reply #16 on: January 10, 2012, 07:18:34 AM »

There are two types of people in this world... (You know how the rest goes.)

I thought there were 10 types.

Those who understand binary, and those who don't?

Yes.  Or as I learned it, those who divide people into two types, and those who don't.
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« Reply #17 on: January 10, 2012, 09:14:12 AM »

There are two types of people in this world... (You know how the rest goes.)

I thought there were 10 types.

Those who understand binary, and those who don't?

Yes.  Or as I learned it, those who divide people into two types, and those who don't.

How 'bout lumpers v. splitters?
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« Reply #18 on: January 10, 2012, 11:22:56 AM »

There are two types of people in this world... (You know how the rest goes.)

I thought there were 10 types.

Those who understand binary, and those who don't?

Yes.  Or as I learned it, those who divide people into two types, and those who don't.

How 'bout lumpers v. splitters?

Ohhh.
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« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2012, 05:49:09 AM »

If you really are planning on coming to the UK from the US, you need to realize that coming from America is a strike against your personality. You need to be careful about how you express your views of the US.
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« Reply #20 on: January 11, 2012, 06:32:22 AM »

If you really are planning on coming to the UK from the US, you need to realize that coming from America is a strike against your personality.

Rubbish. Collegial, supportive, hard-working and open-minded colleagues tend to do well, whereas arrogant, closed-minded or selfish colleagues don't.

You need to be careful about how you express your views of the US.

Why? Will they be in danger of being hit over the head? Locked up? Sacked? Ostracised by their colleagues?
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« Reply #21 on: January 11, 2012, 06:33:20 AM »

There are two types of people in this world... (You know how the rest goes.)

I thought there were 10 types.

Those who understand binary, and those who don't?

Yes.  Or as I learned it, those who divide people into two types, and those who don't.

It was a running joke among Hitler's secretaries that he was a very binary kind of person. Allegedly, they would mimic him when he wasn't around ("There are two possibilities. Either the pastries will be on time today, or they will be late").
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« Reply #22 on: January 11, 2012, 07:00:09 AM »

If you really are planning on coming to the UK from the US, you need to realize that coming from America is a strike against your personality.

Rubbish. Collegial, supportive, hard-working and open-minded colleagues tend to do well, whereas arrogant, closed-minded or selfish colleagues don't.

You need to be careful about how you express your views of the US.

Why? Will they be in danger of being hit over the head? Locked up? Sacked? Ostracised by their colleagues?

Your colleagues will make you sit at the tiny desks in the lecture theatres, and at the tiny chairs and tables in the SCR until you can pass for Canadian. Then it's all copacetic. Or so I understand.
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« Reply #23 on: January 11, 2012, 09:48:54 AM »

If you really are planning on coming to the UK from the US, you need to realize that coming from America is a strike against your personality. You need to be careful about how you express your views of the US.

I wanted to add that, if this is in response to my post about my American colleague, it wasn't intended as an anti-American comment. The fact that she's American really isn't relevant; it's the fact she insists that the University system in which she got her degrees is always superior to the British system, and she is an infinitely superior teacher/researcher as a consequence. 
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« Reply #24 on: January 11, 2012, 10:52:23 AM »

it's the fact she insists that the University system in which she got her degrees is always superior to the British system, and she is an infinitely superior teacher/researcher as a consequence. 

It isn't? She isn't?

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« Reply #25 on: January 11, 2012, 12:37:15 PM »

If you really are planning on coming to the UK from the US, you need to realize that coming from America is a strike against your personality. You need to be careful about how you express your views of the US.

I wanted to add that, if this is in response to my post about my American colleague, it wasn't intended as an anti-American comment. The fact that she's American really isn't relevant; it's the fact she insists that the University system in which she got her degrees is always superior to the British system, and she is an infinitely superior teacher/researcher as a consequence. 

We have one of these in my department.  And he *isn't* American.
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« Reply #26 on: January 11, 2012, 04:39:07 PM »

it's the fact she insists that the University system in which she got her degrees is always superior to the British system, and she is an infinitely superior teacher/researcher as a consequence. 

It isn't? She isn't?


Good question.  Well?
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« Reply #27 on: January 12, 2012, 05:30:50 AM »

it's the fact she insists that the University system in which she got her degrees is always superior to the British system, and she is an infinitely superior teacher/researcher as a consequence. 

It isn't? She isn't?


Good question.  Well?

Urgh, sorry, I don't understand. I have a horrible virus that's causing the room to spin every few minutes, plus sleep deprivation from kid#2 being up with the same virus. I fear my brain's been fried.
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