drmau
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« on: January 06, 2012, 08:18:35 AM » |
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Partner got a well paying job in a Middle Eastern country. Fine, I join him, but there is a real issue about hiring women there. I applied to several jobs, and while they did not specify males only, a friend there said applications from women are automatically tossed.
I can go with a semester off, but then what? I won't take some crap job just to be working, but I am used to working, I like working, being around people, having a life. Sigh.
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« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2012, 10:23:03 AM » |
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Do you need the money?
If not, it's independent scholar time. Pursue your research, write a book, volunteer.
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mathspice
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« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2012, 11:06:42 AM » |
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Teach online? But then you like being around people... hmmmm...
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I'm teaching about honey, vinegar, and professionalism by example and it seems to work better for me than an exposition.
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drmau
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« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2012, 06:19:49 PM » |
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No, I don't need the money. I guess volunteer work will have to do for my people hit. If you are an independent scholar, can you still go to conferences? They always ask for affiliation.
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« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2012, 06:27:35 PM » |
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No, I don't need the money. I guess volunteer work will have to do for my people hit. If you are an independent scholar, can you still go to conferences? They always ask for affiliation.
Our conferences often have unaffiliated scholars; some are well-known people who jumped off the merry-go-round and do solid research and seem, somehow, saner and happier than the rest of us. Some work in related professions. Some are underemployed recent grads. No one seems to much care. |
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« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2012, 06:42:55 PM » |
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Whether you can do research successfully without an affiliation depends on your discipline/field. There is also the possibility of getting an agreement to be a research associate at a university there. Attitudes to hiring women will vary dramatically by country as will the required dress code.
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« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2012, 06:51:56 PM » |
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Don't give up too quickly on teaching. I see many openings for female faculty in the Middle East in my fields. Some places are desperate for qualified female faculty to teach female students in segregated schools. If you can manage it, then look at the female schools and see what they want.
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If you haven't got either the anatomical or metaphorical balls to post your own question on a pseudonymous internet forum, then academia is the wrong job for you.
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drmau
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« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2012, 09:04:11 PM » |
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What a great suggestion! My very first teaching experience was at a Convent of the Sacred Heart H.S., and I can say I was dragged into this overworked and underpaid profession by teaching bright, all girl classes. Coincidentally, I just met someone who taught at Ewha Women's University in Korea, and is here because his wife got a fellowship.
He said that women really excel in all female environments, and in my predominantly female classes I have noticed this. I could happily teach high school again, if it were not for teenaged boys. I hated them as a teen, and don't much care for them now.
I don't dislike men at all-I'm married to one. A few years and a wife or two, those hormonal horrors transform into people.
But to intellectually inspire young women could be very rewarding. The Prime of Mrs. Jean Brodie?
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polly_mer
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« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2012, 08:25:50 AM » |
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There ya go. Sell your background as a positive and start applying!
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If you haven't got either the anatomical or metaphorical balls to post your own question on a pseudonymous internet forum, then academia is the wrong job for you.
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larryc
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« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2012, 01:55:08 PM » |
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What is your field? Is it something where you could do work about the country?
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drmau
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« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2012, 10:05:14 PM » |
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My field is English, the country is Emirates. I've visited: It's so glitzy: Like Vegas without the booze. Everyone is there for the money, so it is a sort of placeless place. My introvert husband even feels lonely there, though he will feel less so with his hyper chatterbox of a wife by his side.
On the bright side, I may be able to get some part time teaching next fall. I may be able to write. My sons can visit-Mom's hyper gene has been fully transmitted to the lads, poor Husband.
I think the problem is existential. My culturally Jewish Atheist parents informed me at an early age that there was no G-D, Humans are alone, and we are all going to die. I pray lots, seek human and cat contact, and I am very scared of dying.
My son said I have parties in order to prevent my own death-wouldn't do to die with all the guests needing food.
However: He likes to dress in vintage women's clothes. I'm sure that's going to be adorable in the Emirates.
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« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2012, 05:46:32 AM » |
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I hate to say this but has your hubby read the uae unis thread here or uae universities watch?
Remind that son that when in rome he had better do only as romans do.
Heard about the Abu Dhabi prof who was arrested last year?
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« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2012, 05:57:59 PM » |
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My field is English, the country is Emirates. I've visited: It's so glitzy: Like Vegas without the booze. Everyone is there for the money, so it is a sort of placeless place. My introvert husband even feels lonely there, though he will feel less so with his hyper chatterbox of a wife by his side.
On the bright side, I may be able to get some part time teaching next fall. I may be able to write. My sons can visit-Mom's hyper gene has been fully transmitted to the lads, poor Husband.
I think the problem is existential. My culturally Jewish Atheist parents informed me at an early age that there was no G-D, Humans are alone, and we are all going to die. I pray lots, seek human and cat contact, and I am very scared of dying.
My son said I have parties in order to prevent my own death-wouldn't do to die with all the guests needing food.
However: He likes to dress in vintage women's clothes. I'm sure that's going to be adorable in the Emirates.
Good luck.The Emirates in very liberal and I know lots of women who work there and have met with high degrees of success. You could teach English as a second language. |
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Mountainguy (on rejection letter thread):
This sounds very Foucauldian. "You do not apply to search committee; the search committee applies to you!!"
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« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2012, 10:40:11 AM » |
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Call your embassy and ask about the international women's club and start networking! It sounds like perhaps the best way to find an academic job may involve having some sort of personal contact --
If you're American, see if your embassy can put you in contact with any female academics in the country in your particular field of study -- such as individuals who might have had Fulbright grants to the US. Offer to guest lecture about your research project at their universities for free -- just so people know you're there.
If there's an American library or American center in your country, go there and visit. Talk to the staff. They will likely know many academics and have contacts at many universities whom they can put you in touch with.
International universities may be more interested in hiring you if you're already in country, since you are cheaper than someone they have to bring over and house, etc. But they might not know you're there unless someone they already know brings you in and introduces you around.
See if there is an office of AMIDEAST in your country as well. They might be able to use you as a contractor or something similar in a grant being put together.
Also, ask at the embassy about any preexisting university partnerships between a university in your country and one in the US. Then, you can drop a note to the US partner and mention that you're in the country and would love to meet others or to be involved in the project.
It's important that the educational community knows that you're there, so that if something turns up, they'll think "how about so and so? She's already here. We already know her, and I've heard her lecture. Isn't she writing a book on that subject?"
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« Reply #14 on: March 04, 2012, 04:01:56 AM » |
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Hey, you're not alone! I know a strong TT candidate who's taught (unhappily) at a high school here, and has had 2 adjunct jobs, and now has an interview with NYUAD. Great CV all around--the UAE really works in mysterious ways. So whatever you do, don't take it personally if you're having a rough start!
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