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[diodeone]

Anyone with advanced qualifications should avoid this university. I have participated in many interviews via Skype but because the level of unprofessional conduct was acute I actually ended the interview with them midway because the interview was more of an inquisition about me personally rather than my qualifications as an applicant.


http://chronicle.com/jobs/0000709870-01


 

[csguy]

I know a number of people at Keimyung. It's a fair sized university (25,000+ students).  Keimyung is really into hiring international faculty but not always successful in retaining them -- a lot depends on the department/college. You can't judge the whole university by one department. I do note that they obviously didn't have a native speaker proof the ad -- bad sign.

[diodeone]

I know a number of people at Keimyung. It's a fair sized university (25,000+ students).  Keimyung is really into hiring international faculty but not always successful in retaining them -- a lot depends on the department/college. You can't judge the whole university by one department. I do note that they obviously didn't have a native speaker proof the ad -- bad sign.

For those not from Korea. Keimyung is not a top or well established university. It is a tenuous regional university that tries to project an international image. The person who interviewed me was a foreigner. He didn't come across as very professional at all. I don't care who you know there. Keimyung is not even remotely in the same league as Seoul National University or even a notable regional university such as Pusan National or Taegu National  Universities.

There has been talk that these tenuous universities are in desperate need to hire foreigners with MA's on the cheap in order to keep their subsidies so they don't go under. I think people have a right to know that and who you know isn't going to change that.

[csguy]

That must have been a really bad interview.

I didn't say anything about rankings. I would agree that Keimyung is third tier.  I'm not sure I'd call them tenuous. I do know they've been doing a lot of building (new med school, pharmacy school and some other things).

Keimyung has been hiring international faculty for some years. I know a few of them -- nobody special. How happy they are depends largely on the department they work for -- that was what I was trying to say in my previous post.

There are some other threads on working for Korean universities that might prove useful if you're considering coming here.

[diodeone]

That must have been a really bad interview.

I didn't say anything about rankings. I would agree that Keimyung is third tier.  I'm not sure I'd call them tenuous. I do know they've been doing a lot of building (new med school, pharmacy school and some other things).

Keimyung has been hiring international faculty for some years. I know a few of them -- nobody special. How happy they are depends largely on the department they work for -- that was what I was trying to say in my previous post.

There are some other threads on working for Korean universities that might prove useful if you're considering coming here.

The interview was not the issue-it was the people conducting it.
I have over two decades of experience along with a doctoral degree in terms of my qualifications. The staff and particularly the foreigner who was conducting the inquisition was a very angry and agitated person and extremely unprofessional.  The salary they were willing to offer me was for double the amount of hours I was offered from another university with a much higher reputation than that of KU.

Furthermore, Keimyung is one of those bottom 43 universities slated to be shutdown for lack of subsidies
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2011/09/113_94210.html

[csguy]

The interview was not the issue-it was the people conducting it.
I have over two decades of experience along with a doctoral degree in terms of my qualifications. The staff and particularly the foreigner who was conducting the inquisition was a very angry and agitated person and extremely unprofessional.  The salary they were willing to offer me was for double the amount of hours I was offered from another university with a much higher reputation than that of KU.

Furthermore, Keimyung is one of those bottom 43 universities slated to be shutdown for lack of subsidies
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2011/09/113_94210.html

You can find the actual list at http://koreajoongangdaily.joinsmsn.com/news/article/html/189/2941189.html
Keimyung is not on it.

[nghassan]

When I was with Keimyung I felt the pay was decent by standards, extra MBA work really helped. The new Korean Associate Dean who replaced the American was not so good to work for in the main program, I worked in, but the MBA folks-all Korean management but a true international program was great.

Keimyung is a seemingly wealthy private college. The campus is a mix of the ivy covered brick buildings and newer more modern looking structures.

Mandatory teaching of lower subjects as overtime, at low pay and out of my subject area, forced under the new boss, at the main employment, was wat killed it for me.

Word was then, that Keimyung was probably the second best uni in Daegu.

All the Best!

[diodeone]

c

That must have been a really bad interview.

I didn't say anything about rankings. I would agree that Keimyung is third tier.  I'm not sure I'd call them tenuous. I do know they've been doing a lot of building (new med school, pharmacy school and some other things).

Keimyung has been hiring international faculty for some years. I know a few of them -- nobody special. How happy they are depends largely on the department they work for -- that was what I was trying to say in my previous post.

There are some other threads on working for Korean universities that might prove useful if you're considering coming here.

The interview was not the issue-it was the people conducting it.
I have over two decades of experience along with a doctoral degree in terms of my qualifications. The staff and particularly the foreigner who was conducting the inquisition was a very angry and agitated person and extremely unprofessional.  The salary they were willing to offer me was for double the amount of hours I was offered from another university with a much higher reputation than that of KU.

Furthermore, Keimyung is one of those bottom 43 universities slated to be shutdown for lack of subsidies
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2011/09/113_94210.html

Fair enough. However, that does nothing to dispel the fact that the school is highly unprofessional in its conduct.  I am starting to guess that you may be a person working for that school and therefore my pity goes out to you. However, maybe that's the best you could have done with your credentials. IF you do have a doctoral degree please share because in my next post I would like to pose a series of questions for you to answer relating to your own authority to speak on this matter. And questions that if you don't have that type of credential you won't be able to answer

[tinyzombie]

IF you do have a doctoral degree please share because in my next post I would like to pose a series of questions for you to answer relating to your own authority to speak on this matter. And questions that if you don't have that type of credential you won't be able to answer

<pulls up lawn chair>

cs, want a beer?

[oldfullprof]

Six months in Taegu.  Apples.  Long time ago.  No universities then, I think.  Pulls up chair.

[tinyzombie]

<slides cooler over to ofp>

[oldfullprof]

Glad this is hypothetical beer.  Sour stomach today.  Com-up-sumnida!

[csguy]

c

That must have been a really bad interview.

I didn't say anything about rankings. I would agree that Keimyung is third tier.  I'm not sure I'd call them tenuous. I do know they've been doing a lot of building (new med school, pharmacy school and some other things).

Keimyung has been hiring international faculty for some years. I know a few of them -- nobody special. How happy they are depends largely on the department they work for -- that was what I was trying to say in my previous post.

There are some other threads on working for Korean universities that might prove useful if you're considering coming here.

The interview was not the issue-it was the people conducting it.
I have over two decades of experience along with a doctoral degree in terms of my qualifications. The staff and particularly the foreigner who was conducting the inquisition was a very angry and agitated person and extremely unprofessional.  The salary they were willing to offer me was for double the amount of hours I was offered from another university with a much higher reputation than that of KU.

Furthermore, Keimyung is one of those bottom 43 universities slated to be shutdown for lack of subsidies
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2011/09/113_94210.html

Fair enough. However, that does nothing to dispel the fact that the school is highly unprofessional in its conduct.  I am starting to guess that you may be a person working for that school and therefore my pity goes out to you. However, maybe that's the best you could have done with your credentials. IF you do have a doctoral degree please share because in my next post I would like to pose a series of questions for you to answer relating to your own authority to speak on this matter. And questions that if you don't have that type of credential you won't be able to answer

Well, I wasn't expecting the Spanish inquisition.

Questions that require a Ph.D. in CS? Many people on this forum, myself included, value their anonymity. I don't care to play 20 questions. I know a bit about Keimyung. I know people there I could ask if it's important. I'm not working there right now.

Let me ask you though: Since you clearly consider this school beneath you and you think they're about to close their doors why on earth did you interview there?

I hope we're not drinking Korean beer.

[diodeone]

c

That must have been a really bad interview.

I didn't say anything about rankings. I would agree that Keimyung is third tier.  I'm not sure I'd call them tenuous. I do know they've been doing a lot of building (new med school, pharmacy school and some other things).

Keimyung has been hiring international faculty for some years. I know a few of them -- nobody special. How happy they are depends largely on the department they work for -- that was what I was trying to say in my previous post.

There are some other threads on working for Korean universities that might prove useful if you're considering coming here.

The interview was not the issue-it was the people conducting it.
I have over two decades of experience along with a doctoral degree in terms of my qualifications. The staff and particularly the foreigner who was conducting the inquisition was a very angry and agitated person and extremely unprofessional.  The salary they were willing to offer me was for double the amount of hours I was offered from another university with a much higher reputation than that of KU.

Furthermore, Keimyung is one of those bottom 43 universities slated to be shutdown for lack of subsidies
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2011/09/113_94210.html

Fair enough. However, that does nothing to dispel the fact that the school is highly unprofessional in its conduct.  I am starting to guess that you may be a person working for that school and therefore my pity goes out to you. However, maybe that's the best you could have done with your credentials. IF you do have a doctoral degree please share because in my next post I would like to pose a series of questions for you to answer relating to your own authority to speak on this matter. And questions that if you don't have that type of credential you won't be able to answer

Well, I wasn't expecting the Spanish inquisition.

Questions that require a Ph.D. in CS? Many people on this forum, myself included, value their anonymity. I don't care to play 20 questions. I know a bit about Keimyung. I know people there I could ask if it's important. I'm not working there right now.

Let me ask you though: Since you clearly consider this school beneath you and you think they're about to close their doors why on earth did you interview there?

I hope we're not drinking Korean beer.

Most people on here do have doctoral degrees. I actually have two (only one of those is a PhD though).  It's clear you lack credentials based on your comments- I'm guessing  you're either one of the lost soul AbD's at best; but more likely not even that. 

And I don't import Korean beer to the states, however I think they sell it a small Korean store in the nearby college town since there are foreign students from Korea studying here since this is a Tier I Research University .

[tinyzombie]

Most people on here do have doctoral degrees. I actually have two (only one of those is a PhD though).  It's clear you lack credentials based on your comments- I'm guessing  you're either one of the lost soul AbD's at best; but more likely not even that. 

An expert on the fora after five posts, are we? And, clearly, on sarcasm.

Is the air really thin up there on your high horse?

<hands cs a Miller High Life>