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« Reply #15 on: December 20, 2011, 11:45:46 AM » |
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I do not think it is appropriate to make fun of a student by name on the forum. Just because he is famous is not an excuse to make fun of his educational goals or grades. You should not do this to any of your students, whether they are famous or not. I do not know anything about his academics, but he is still a student. Of all the Hollywood hobbies, education seems a worthy one. Now the funny stories where students cannot be identified are a different matter.
I haven't seen a single post here that makes fun of James Franco's grade. I agree, however, with both you and NYU's spokesperson that it was inappropriate for Franco's grade to be released in the law suit. James Franco pays a team of publicists to ensure that middle-aged, educated women are swooning over him. I'll see every single one of his movies - more money for The James. How is this like the situation with my other students? |
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« Reply #16 on: December 20, 2011, 12:28:52 PM » |
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Isn't Franco enrolled in multiple graduate programs?
Also, if he really attended only 2 classes all semester a D was too generous.
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« Reply #17 on: December 20, 2011, 12:45:29 PM » |
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I can see why a program would be flexible with a student like this. Here's someone that works in the field, and is apparently bright enough to also advance the academic discipline. In all the departments I've been in, there have been grad students that have left or been only partly resident due to work "in the field", and I'm in STEM. Some folks come back and defend a thesis. Yes, on the 15 year plan, but that's okay given that their goals usually aren't as linear as many grad students. Some never bother. Also, if he really attended only 2 classes all semester a D was too generous.
He probably should have ended up with a W, don't you think? Maybe Franco was submitting work all along, despite the absences? |
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« Reply #18 on: December 20, 2011, 01:04:59 PM » |
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Maybe Franco was breezing through the college twice a year, taking the department chair and the president to lunch at a 5 star restaurant, and leaving a nice check.
I mean we can speculate all we like.
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« Reply #19 on: December 20, 2011, 01:07:51 PM » |
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Also, if he really attended only 2 classes all semester a D was too generous.
He probably should have ended up with a W, don't you think? Maybe Franco was submitting work all along, despite the absences? In a directing class? Possible, but not likely. At some point, you have to be face to face to do the work. |
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« Reply #20 on: December 20, 2011, 01:16:35 PM » |
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Also, if he really attended only 2 classes all semester a D was too generous.
He probably should have ended up with a W, don't you think? Maybe Franco was submitting work all along, despite the absences? In a directing class? Possible, but not likely. At some point, you have to be face to face to do the work. Maybe Franco was breezing through the college twice a year, taking the department chair and the president to lunch at a 5 star restaurant, and leaving a nice check.
I mean we can speculate all we like.
I imagine that because of the lawsuit, we'll end up finding out. |
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« Reply #21 on: December 20, 2011, 01:24:21 PM » |
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aprilmay, I think you might benefit from a drink or a nap.
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« Reply #22 on: December 20, 2011, 01:34:24 PM » |
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I do not think it is appropriate to make fun of a student by name on the forum. Just because he is famous is not an excuse to make fun of his educational goals or grades.
I agree entirely!! And shame on The Onion for allowing reality and respected publications to scoop this story. |
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« Reply #23 on: December 20, 2011, 02:26:02 PM » |
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Where did "James Franco Has Prof Fired" come from or did you not even bother to read the articles on this?
The professor is not claiming that Franco got him fired, but that NYU let him go for giving Franco a D. Neither NYU or Santana claim that Franco protested the D. NYU says the loss of the position had nothing to do with the grade. In any case, publicizing a student's grade and attendance record is unprofessional to say the least. We cannot know the whole story, but I seriously doubt that NYU fired him for a single grade to a celebrity or that this is the first celebrity to go to NYU.
Other than forumites, nobody is claiming that a student got a prof fired. This story is weird enough without making it weirder.
http://omg.yahoo.com/news/james-francos-nyu-professor-fired-giving-actor-bad-231344744.html |
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« Reply #24 on: December 20, 2011, 02:27:06 PM » |
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I do not think it is appropriate to make fun of a student by name on the forum. Just because he is famous is not an excuse to make fun of his educational goals or grades. You should not do this to any of your students, whether they are famous or not. I do not know anything about his academics, but he is still a student. Of all the Hollywood hobbies, education seems a worthy one. Now the funny stories where students cannot be identified are a different matter.
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« Reply #26 on: December 20, 2011, 02:47:50 PM » |
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He attended 2 classes all semester and says the professor may have been intimidated because he's a working actor? In an acting class? Come on, James. You'd be fired for no showing on the set. What did you think would happen in a class? In all fairness, there very well may be more to this story on the professor's end. On Franco's? Puh-leeze. |
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« Reply #27 on: December 20, 2011, 02:54:14 PM » |
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He attended 2 classes all semester and says the professor may have been intimidated because he's a working actor? In an acting class? Come on, James. You'd be fired for no showing on the set. What did you think would happen in a class? In all fairness, there very well may be more to this story on the professor's end. On Franco's? Puh-leeze. But Franco's comment could also have been taken out of context here as well. Could you imagine that the conversation may have gone like this: Franco: I got a D in acting class. Reporter: You had to take an acting class?!?! You should have been teaching the class - I'd give you an automatic A. Haha. What was it like having to take an acting class? Franco: It was weird. The students pretended to not know who I was, but the professor seemed like he may have been a little intimidated. Reporter: So why the D, then? Franco: I did the work, but I only showed up to 2 classes. |
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« Reply #28 on: December 20, 2011, 02:55:40 PM » |
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I think he earned a D for his performance at the Oscars and perhaps also for his acting in the Planet of the Apes movie. His hosting of the Oscars was pretty painful to watch and he walked through the role in the ape movie if you ask me. I am too old for his apparent charms, I guess, which should have no bearing on his grade, of course!
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« Reply #29 on: December 20, 2011, 03:12:18 PM » |
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He attended 2 classes all semester and says the professor may have been intimidated because he's a working actor? In an acting class? Come on, James. You'd be fired for no showing on the set. What did you think would happen in a class? In all fairness, there very well may be more to this story on the professor's end. On Franco's? Puh-leeze. But Franco's comment could also have been taken out of context here as well. Could you imagine that the conversation may have gone like this: Franco: I got a D in acting class. Reporter: You had to take an acting class?!?! You should have been teaching the class - I'd give you an automatic A. Haha. What was it like having to take an acting class? Franco: It was weird. The students pretended to not know who I was, but the professor seemed like he may have been a little intimidated. Reporter: So why the D, then? Franco: I did the work, but I only showed up to 2 classes. Fair enough. Still, the man is/was enrolled simultaneously in two programs in two different cities. Does anyone honestly believe he could fulfill the requirements for both programs while filming on location in Utah and participating the in post production of the film? My ability to suspend disbelief is strained if not broken in this case. Earning a degree is one thing. Buying a degree, well, it's done but not always so blatantly. Why not just give the man an honorary degree and forgo the charade altogether? As to Franco being the cause of the professor's termination, we'll have to wait for the trial. |
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