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Author Topic: Christopher Hitchens Died  (Read 10800 times)
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« Reply #30 on: December 18, 2011, 05:49:52 PM »

Hitchens about whether women are funny. Many people miss his irony.

http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/features/2007/01/hitchens200701

The Fiona

Irony?

"there are some impressive ladies out there. Most of them, though, when you come to review the situation, are hefty or dykey or Jewish, or some combo of the three."

I'm not the most PC person, but this is not okay with me.

I do appreciate your mentioning his views on abortion, takedown of Mother Teresa, etc, The Fiona. I was happy to see those.
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« Reply #31 on: December 18, 2011, 07:39:55 PM »

An overrated hack who glommed on to Orwell's reputation and did the classic Augustinian swing-- a rabid leftist in his youth when it was trendy, then a neo-conservative in mid life when that was trendy.

This isn't true of his politics, which were much richer and diverse. Hitchens was not a neo-con. He gave up on Marxism (but who hasn't?) and was a lifelong supporter of women's rights, including abortion, and a lifelong opponent of theism and totalitarianism. The Tea Party no doubt hated him, if they read enough to know about him.

You're also ignoring his virtuosity as a writer.

Well, everyone's free to be wrong, as Hitch often said, but more colorfully.

The Fiona, who wishes she could've met and argued with him

Meh, if by rich and diverse you mean writing pale Marxism by day and partying with bankers at night, I'll give you that.

The Tea Party don't like Neo-cons. Neo-cons have a much too activist foreign policy for their liking, so I wouldn't doubt they would reject Hitchens.

His political judgment was dreadful. He did precisely what Orwell argued we shouldn't-- become fanatical in the face of adversity. Muslim clerics putting a fatwa on his pal Rushdie means we need to go bonkers over Muslim fundamentalists. And that means putting the beatdown on Iraq because, you know, it's led by that Muslim fundamentalist, friend of Iranian Shiite ayatollahs and drinking pal of Osama bin Laden, Saddam Hussein.

He was just an atheist version of David Horowitz with good literary connections.

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« Reply #32 on: December 23, 2011, 08:45:21 AM »


Meh, if by rich and diverse you mean writing pale Marxism by day and partying with bankers at night, I'll give you that.

The Tea Party don't like Neo-cons. Neo-cons have a much too activist foreign policy for their liking, so I wouldn't doubt they would reject Hitchens.

His political judgment was dreadful. He did precisely what Orwell argued we shouldn't-- become fanatical in the face of adversity. Muslim clerics putting a fatwa on his pal Rushdie means we need to go bonkers over Muslim fundamentalists.

He was just an atheist version of David Horowitz with good literary connections.


Yep.

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« Reply #33 on: December 25, 2011, 09:03:47 PM »

Suffering and poverty can only be bad to a hedonist like Hitchens

There you go, all fixed.

High five. I had the same reaction to that as you did, but you expressed it far more succinctly than I would have.
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« Reply #34 on: December 26, 2011, 11:22:58 PM »

Suffering and poverty can only be bad to a hedonist like Hitchens

There you go, all fixed.

High five. I had the same reaction to that as you did, but you ex  pressed it far more succinctly than I would have.

Let's respect the well honored tradition of not kicking the dead.  Having said that, I did not like Mr Hitchens.  I knew him only secondarily through a mutual friend. I have no meaningful personal knowledge of Hitchens other than sharing a table with him in a mid town east Manhattan co-op at a dinner hosted by a journo-expat.  Hitchens was charming and competed for control of the conversation with our host.  Both were, one still is, recountenours of remarkable ability.  They come to table to perform, and do so ably. Frankly, it is not a pleasant experience. something like going to the beach only to find one is expected to swim through heavy surf.  Heavy drinking begins early and last long.
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« Reply #35 on: December 27, 2011, 02:26:19 AM »

1.  Smarter and a better writer than Norman Mailer.
2.  Why I had Jewish girlfriends.
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