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matand
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« Reply #15 on: December 16, 2011, 04:09:19 PM »

http://www.basspro.com/Bushnell-Trophy-Cam-8-0-Megapixel-Digital-Game-Camera/product/10211917/50507

Personally I prefer this game camera.  It can be placed to take a picture of anyone that enters your office.  You can even set it up to take a video.  I think that it would be very interesting to see what it captures, especially if the nutty chair does try to plant something in your office. 

It may even end their career, but certainly their ability to chair.

A friend used this for her divorce.  She caught him in the act and made him look like a fool in the courtroom when he said he was not having an affair.  Doh!
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« Reply #16 on: December 16, 2011, 04:42:36 PM »

http://www.basspro.com/Bushnell-Trophy-Cam-8-0-Megapixel-Digital-Game-Camera/product/10211917/50507

Personally I prefer this game camera.  It can be placed to take a picture of anyone that enters your office.  You can even set it up to take a video.  I think that it would be very interesting to see what it captures, especially if the nutty chair does try to plant something in your office. 

It may even end their career, but certainly their ability to chair.
If you're talking about setting it up as a hidden audio/video recorder, that may be illegal. I'm not a legal expert but I think that depending on the state, it may be illegal to record people without their permission (unless it's in your house or on property that you own).
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« Reply #17 on: December 16, 2011, 05:43:12 PM »

Then put a sign on your office door that intruders may be recorded.

Otherwise, sue me!

Plant incrementing evidence in my office, mess with my computer in an effort to fire me and THEN complain that I RECORDED you doing it without YOUR permission?   Take me to court!  I want a JURY trial!! 
 
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« Reply #18 on: December 16, 2011, 07:00:04 PM »

Then put a sign on your office door that intruders may be recorded.

Otherwise, sue me!

Plant incrementing evidence in my office, mess with my computer in an effort to fire me and THEN complain that I RECORDED you doing it without YOUR permission?   Take me to court!  I want a JURY trial!! 
Sure, if you do catch the person they are the ones in trouble. If you don't though and your dean or college president found out that you had a hidden camera in your office, I can't imagine that going over well.
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« Reply #19 on: December 16, 2011, 07:04:03 PM »

I just dont see it as a problem, but I m probably in one of those states where you can do it.  We were recently debating allowing guns on campus (for those with a concealed carry permit).  So if we will consider loaded guns, I doubt that a loaded camera is a big issue... though I could be wrong, the camera may be more dangerous!
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« Reply #20 on: December 27, 2011, 01:18:15 PM »

If recording is illegal, consider that at the very least it should still be a deterrent. When I looked into this I understood that conversations can be recorded provided the other party is aware of this. So all you have to do it get something like "I am recording this right now" on the recorder and then you should be ok (keep it hidden though). That is some protection; I have a hard time imagining someone would then keep threatening, though crazy people can do this. And then you have a recording of it. Check the laws, but I think it is ok if all are aware and if you have your voice informing them on the recording.
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« Reply #21 on: December 28, 2011, 04:04:52 PM »

If recording is illegal, consider that at the very least it should still be a deterrent. When I looked into this I understood that conversations can be recorded provided the other party is aware of this. So all you have to do it get something like "I am recording this right now" on the recorder and then you should be ok (keep it hidden though). That is some protection; I have a hard time imagining someone would then keep threatening, though crazy people can do this. And then you have a recording of it. Check the laws, but I think it is ok if all are aware and if you have your voice informing them on the recording.

Sorry, observer3, but you're mistaken.  Recording other people is a matter of state law, and in some states anyone being recorded must explicitly give permission.  In other states, only one party to the recording must consent.  It all depends on where the OP is.
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« Reply #22 on: December 28, 2011, 04:11:09 PM »

OP, how are you doing?
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« Reply #23 on: December 28, 2011, 11:49:55 PM »

If recording is illegal, consider that at the very least it should still be a deterrent. When I looked into this I understood that conversations can be recorded provided the other party is aware of this. So all you have to do it get something like "I am recording this right now" on the recorder and then you should be ok (keep it hidden though). That is some protection; I have a hard time imagining someone would then keep threatening, though crazy people can do this. And then you have a recording of it. Check the laws, but I think it is ok if all are aware and if you have your voice informing them on the recording.

Sorry, observer3, but you're mistaken.  Recording other people is a matter of state law, and in some states anyone being recorded must explicitly give permission.  In other states, only one party to the recording must consent.  It all depends on where the OP is.

In some states, there is a middle ground, which is that recording is legal without explicit consent IF the conversation takes place somewhere where there is no "expectation of privacy."  In other words, within earshot of others, at a meeting, in the hallway, etc.  This could be a good reason to begin to have all conversations with the person in the break room, with others present, and so on, not only to keep them on their best behavior but to have proof of what was said.  If legal there...
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« Reply #24 on: December 29, 2011, 12:07:51 AM »

OP, what a horrible situation.

I'm curious about the legal angle.  When did you sue?  Why?  What claims did you specifically bring?  What did you hope to accomplish by bringing a legal action in the first place?
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« Reply #25 on: December 29, 2011, 12:44:19 AM »

If recording is illegal, consider that at the very least it should still be a deterrent. When I looked into this I understood that conversations can be recorded provided the other party is aware of this. So all you have to do it get something like "I am recording this right now" on the recorder and then you should be ok (keep it hidden though). That is some protection; I have a hard time imagining someone would then keep threatening, though crazy people can do this. And then you have a recording of it. Check the laws, but I think it is ok if all are aware and if you have your voice informing them on the recording.

Sorry, observer3, but you're mistaken.  Recording other people is a matter of state law, and in some states anyone being recorded must explicitly give permission.  In other states, only one party to the recording must consent.  It all depends on where the OP is.

In some states, there is a middle ground, which is that recording is legal without explicit consent IF the conversation takes place somewhere where there is no "expectation of privacy."

Yes, I did not mean to imply that there were only two variations of the law.  Those were just two examples.  My point was that the OP should find out what his or her state law says on the matter, as every state puts its own twist on what is or is not allowed.
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