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« on: November 03, 2011, 03:57:00 PM » |
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which univ is better in terms of engineering? which one is better located? thanks.
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« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2011, 04:01:14 PM » |
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It might help if you do not abbreviate the names of the schools, inform us of your status/rank, and state what you mean by 'better' in engineering and 'better' in location.
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« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2011, 04:25:14 PM » |
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It might help if you do not abbreviate the names of the schools, inform us of your status/rank, and state what you mean by 'better' in engineering and 'better' in location.
Southampton/Sheffield. I'm guessing UK people already know that (and this is the UK board). But the other questions are important. |
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« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2011, 01:35:55 AM » |
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weather wise.... Southampton...
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weneedjobs
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« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2011, 10:55:38 AM » |
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weather wise.... Southampton...
thanks, how about 'otherwise'? infrastructure? students? reputation within uk or internationally? quality of research? quality of life? etc... thanks |
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« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2011, 01:22:26 PM » |
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weather wise.... Southampton...
thanks, how about 'otherwise'? infrastructure? students? reputation within uk or internationally? quality of research? quality of life? etc... thanks Easy to answer if you are prepared to do your own homework. |
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weneedjobs
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« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2011, 01:29:26 PM » |
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Thanks, but there are certain things that can't be known even I do my homework. I never been to UK, so I have idea how these two Universities compare to each other, same for the two cities. So I would appreciate opinions from those who are already there.
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« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2011, 09:46:36 AM » |
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"infrastructure? students? reputation within uk or internationally? quality of research? quality of life?"
One more time: Do your homework. You'll be surprised at how much you can find out using just Google, for example.
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« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2011, 05:21:48 AM » |
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Thanks, but there are certain things that can't be known even I do my homework. I never been to UK, so I have idea how these two Universities compare to each other, same for the two cities. So I would appreciate opinions from those who are already there.
Look, if you're seriously considering an academic job in the UK, then it behooves you to do a bit of leg work, as opposed to relying on an anonymous forum. What stage of the process are you at? If you're simply in the process of applying, then go ahead and apply to both positions. If however, you've been invited to interview at both places, then you're certainly far enough along that you should be looking at the faculty webpages to judge for yourself the impact of research that is being performed at each institution. If you don't feel confident enough to judge the quality of research as it pertains to your area, then you can look instead at the RAE 2008 rankings: http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/page/subject/rae2008Take the effort to learn more about the REF (the replacement for the RAE), if you seriously hope to have a chance at a UK academic job in engineering: http://www.hefce.ac.uk/research/ref/Honestly, take the effort to make your own initial impressions before relying on anonymous comments on a forum. It's your life, take a bit more responsibility for your decisions. You know what they say, "free advice is worth the price you pay for it." |
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« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2011, 08:15:16 AM » |
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It's shocking to see such laziness from a person who is proposing to move across the world for a new career and life.
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« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2011, 09:10:06 AM » |
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It might help if you do not abbreviate the names of the schools, inform us of your status/rank, and state what you mean by 'better' in engineering and 'better' in location.
Southampton/Sheffield. I'm guessing UK people already know that (and this is the UK board). But the other questions are important. Why would you assume that? It's not exactly LSE, SOAS or UCL. |
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« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2011, 08:06:10 PM » |
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Why would you assume that? It's not exactly LSE, SOAS or UCL.
It's obvious to anyone from the UK what was meant by the OP. I don't know why he's being criticized so much either. Just seems to want to get some more local/inside perspective than what's possible to find out online. |
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« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2011, 08:11:28 PM » |
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It might help if you do not abbreviate the names of the schools, inform us of your status/rank, and state what you mean by 'better' in engineering and 'better' in location.
Southampton/Sheffield. I'm guessing UK people already know that (and this is the UK board). But the other questions are important. Why would you assume that? It's not exactly LSE, SOAS or UCL. Well, I'm a postdoc in the US with no particular connection to the UK and I knew what the OP was talking about and I'm not particularly special. |
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« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2011, 12:15:28 AM » |
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I know more engineers from Southampton than Sheffield, if that matters.
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« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2011, 12:36:03 PM » |
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I know more engineers from Southampton than Sheffield, if that matters.
Given your posts about some of your research trips, that surprises me not at all ;-) But the OP's original post was a bit like a Brit asking on The Interview Process about the difference between engineering (no definition of which part of engineering, and both Southampton and Sheffield have huge engineering faculties) at your place in Swelterville and at Michigan Tech and what it's like in each place without ever showing that they'd looked at the NRC rankings, the USNews (yes, I know) rankings, Zillow, or the met reports for Swelterville and the UP (brrrrr). |
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