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[movingzachb]

Hi. New to the forum. I came by it on a google search looking for suggestions on how to handle my issue.
I haven't been to a college class in a very long time. I just got a perm government position and am in the SCEP program (though I know many people probably have no idea what that is, in a nutshell a work/study program where you are required to take classes related to your field of work).  


Anyway I suppose this is partially a rant but sorry in advance. I just got this position and I am trying to keep it by keeping up with online courses.  I started my first online course and the instructor dropped me because I did not turn in the first assignment/post on the chapter discussion forum board and reply to at least three students etc.  This was because there was a fire where I lived and I had to evacuate and there was no access to Internet.  I called him and asked him to please re-enroll and he did after I pleaded me so I could continue (but of course he would not let me make up the past assignment).  He just kept going on about how is is very strict and how I am not following directions etc.

So I have been on top of things to make sure I have done everything for the next chapter and I did except I forgot to email the assignment ( that I did do ) it was basically review quesitons 1. a 2 b,c 3.d.  I did them out of the book but simply for got to email them.   So I get online to check my class and im not authorized. So I am sure he dropped me.  So there is no email message from him at all and there was no email the last time he dropped me either.  I am very angry because I have spent 92 dollars on this book for the class, another 83 for the the the class as well.  I doubt he will let me re-enroll again, but I sent him an email. I told him I have been active in the course and have done what is expected of me but I simply forgot to email you the assignment.


Shouldn't a professor at least contact you and tell you what is going on and why you suddenly can't get into your class? Don't they realize you put in a lot of effort to make an online class work? Don't they know that the reason students take online classes is because they need something to work with their lifestyle or work schedule?  Do I need to find another class or another school or get some other kind of 'special treatment' I need to stay inerolled to these classes. I would appreciate it if the professor would at least be wiling to work with you -- especially if you stay in contact and try.

[oldfullprof]

Most of us who teach on-line classes have been sandbagged by students who didn't comply until the last moment with requirements they should have completed earlier.  So I well understand what your instructor did.  I've done it myself. 

You should have (but still have the opportunity to) communicated with the instructor as the events happened.

[movingzachb]

I have but please address the part about not being notified.  If you are trying to teach and we are trying to learn, it is not going to happen if we can't work together. It is one thing if you don't respond to your teacher or try to communicate but it is another if you drop a student out and disallow them access to the class alltogether without any communication. Yes I already emailed the instructor - and I explained to him everything - I have no reason to believe he should think I am 'sand bagging' him in any way shape or form. I have been very honest to the point where I have tried my best to get his help without going into my own personnal issues.  

[oldadjunct]

I have but please address the part about not being notified.  If you are trying to teach and we are trying to learn, it is not going to happen if we can't work together. It is one thing if you don't respond to your teacher or try to communicate but it is another if you drop a student out and disallow them access to the class alltogether without any communication. Yes I already emailed the instructor - and I explained to him everything - I have no reason to believe he should think I am 'sand bagging' him in any way shape or form. I have been very honest to the point where I have tried my best to get his help without going into my own personnal issues.  

But he did communicate with you, and re-enrolled you against his best judgement and experience, after the first time.  Your take away from that communication was, "He just kept going on about how is is very strict and how I am not following directions etc.," which you obviously did not take to heart when you failed to meet the requirements of the very next assignment.

You confirmed for him the rule of thumb that a problematic student at the beginning of the semester remains a problematic student.

Book and tuition, $175; life lesson learned, priceless.

[movingzachb]

No you are wrong. He did not communicate with me, I had to call him and ask him why I couldn't access my class and then I found out I was dropped.   He should have notified me so I didn't have to go and call him.  At least to tell me that I was dropped.  I did take it to heart his instructions and I did everything he told me to do. I forgot to email my assignment to him.  That is an honest mistake.  I am not a problematic student I am a student who gives a s*** about my class and I for that matter my money that I don't want wasted!

This rule needs to include communication and to be aware that the student did not sign up for class if they did not plan and set aside the time to commit to it.  Though I forgot to turn in my assignment, what I AM obvously is commited to the class.  The point I am trying to make is that I am not a sand bagger deat beat I am trying hard to complete a class.

[mended_drum]

This rule needs to include communication and to be aware that the student did not sign up for class if they did not plan and set aside the time to commit to it. 

Unfortunately, experience has shown that this is not always the case.

[sciencephd]

Please note that the forum temperature is kept at a balmy 78 degrees F and that you are now in acute danger of melting.  I suggest you take appropriate action immediately and return to a more suitable clime.

[voxprincipalis]

No you are wrong. He did not communicate with me, I had to call him and ask him why I couldn't access my class and then I found out I was dropped.   He should have notified me so I didn't have to go and call him.  At least to tell me that I was dropped.  I did take it to heart his instructions and I did everything he told me to do. I forgot to email my assignment to him.  That is an honest mistake.  I am not a problematic student I am a student who gives a s*** about my class and I for that matter my money that I don't want wasted!

This rule needs to include communication and to be aware that the student did not sign up for class if they did not plan and set aside the time to commit to it.  Though I forgot to turn in my assignment, what I AM obvously is commited to the class.  The point I am trying to make is that I am not a sand bagger deat beat I am trying hard to complete a class.

1. Please use standard spelling and grammar on this academic forum. (This is something the forum rules ask of *all* posters.)

2. You are an adult. The professor is not your father, coach, or babysitter. The onus is not on him to chase you down and ask where you were. Moreover:

3. What you think the professor "should" do is absolutely irrelevant to anything. The professor is not bound by your expectations of him, which exist only in your head, and to which he has not agreed. I may think you *should* do X, Y, or Z, but if you haven't agreed to it, then what I think doesn't signify. Do not assume that your understanding of social contracts is shared by everyone else.

4. If you did not email the assignment, then you did not do "everything that was expected of you."

VP

[larryc]

The professor *might* be a bit of a jerk. You are definitely prone to making excuses and not ready for college work.

[prof_smartypants]

No you are wrong. He did not communicate with me, I had to call him and ask him why I couldn't access my class and then I found out I was dropped.   He should have notified me so I didn't have to go and call him.  At least to tell me that I was dropped.  I did take it to heart his instructions and I did everything he told me to do. I forgot to email my assignment to him.  That is an honest mistake.  I am not a problematic student I am a student who gives a s*** about my class and I for that matter my money that I don't want wasted!

This rule needs to include communication and to be aware that the student did not sign up for class if they did not plan and set aside the time to commit to it.  Though I forgot to turn in my assignment, what I AM obvously is commited to the class.  The point I am trying to make is that I am not a sand bagger deat beat I am trying hard to complete a class.

If you gave a s*** about your classes, you would prioritize them and not "forget" to turn in two assignments in a row. The professor made the rules clear, made an exception for you once, and then you f'd up again.

How many chances do you want? Take this as a lesson and take your s*** seriously next time.

[chaosbydesign]

If you do an assignment but don't turn it in, you haven't done the assignment.

[tinyzombie]

If you do an assignment but don't turn it in, you haven't done the assignment.

And if you're really trying to learn, OP, you should take to heart all of the advice on this thread.

Why do I suspect that, instead, there will be more excuses?

Should I pull up a lawnchair?

[punchnpie]

This may be a little off topic, but I'm curious - you can disenroll students on your own? Wow. I can think of a few students I would have liked to disenroll had I known this was a possibility.

OP - you got a 2nd chance and you blew it. Maybe you can use your book the next time the course is offered and you're ready to take it seriously.

[sciencephd]

- you can disenroll students on your own?

Only in my dreams.

[melba_frilkins]

To the OP: What does it say in the syllabus about all this?

- you can disenroll students on your own?

Only in my dreams.

I am required to drop students for non-attendance (never attending, or stopped attended) during the first two weeks. After that it's my option to drop non-attenders. I can drop for other reasons as well, but have never done that.

If you do an assignment but don't turn it in, you haven't done the assignment.

Yes, you have. But only if your instructor is psychic. Isn't that what the "P" in PhD stands for?