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« on: August 28, 2011, 07:59:06 PM »

Great first interview, but it was more all about getting to know me.  I asked a few
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« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2011, 08:01:29 PM »

Sorry, it somehow loaded before my questions.  It was mostly about me, I don't know much, except it is an external search, which is a red flag.  Seems like a good fit, but I need to know what to ask with the next round of internviews on site. 

I wonder about what I will see on the on site, what questions, what factors come into play with an administrative role. 
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« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2011, 10:54:04 AM »

Good luck with the interview, but is there a question, point, insight, or something about this interview or position that you would like to share with the forum?
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« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2011, 09:50:04 PM »

I am not sure what to offer.

Most of the articles I read is about getting the fauclty position, not admsintriation.  Or a Dean.  When it comes to associate Dean, some of the questions:

Is it typically straight salary, or based on a bonus, like amny Dean positions?  Advise on this would be helpful.

Is it common to ask for procudeural documents?  strat plan, etc? 

External is a red flag, I want to know what is going on there, and dont' have much insight.

What questions do I not know to even ask? 
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« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2011, 10:10:12 PM »

I don't know much about administration, but in my limited experience Associate Deans are drawn from internal faculty.  Do you have faculty credentials or do you specialize in administration?  Your background might help others guide you through the process.
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« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2011, 10:07:31 PM »

I moved from my faculty position at my home institution, but neve had to go through a negotiation.  I probably left plenty on the table.  Also going from part to a fully released position.  Are there any resources on what is typical for admisntirative positions such as these?
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« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2011, 10:11:26 PM »

The fact that they are hiring externally is a definite red flag. So I would look at the university websites to see if there is any scuttlebutt on there.
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« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2011, 01:56:56 AM »

The OP's inability to use spelling and grammar correctly are red flags.

S/he is not suited to being a regular poster on these fora.

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« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2011, 12:05:48 PM »

Yes, this is my exact point.  Snarky remarks due to a misspelling.  This may be the types of people I would deal with, I just want to try to understand the variables out there, so I present the best possible subjects during the interview.  I find those most insecure take these views and they are everywhere, so I need to do my due diligence. 
Fiona - I did not read anywhere in the terms and conditions of posting that one is not permitted to be a regular poster if they have a misspelling in their post.  I also do not think that would be your call. 
 
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« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2011, 12:37:15 PM »

Fiona - I did not read anywhere in the terms and conditions of posting that one is not permitted to be a regular poster if they have a misspelling in their post.  I also do not think that would be your call. 

Well, if you stick around long enough, you will discover that you are incorrect.

We are academics.  We value accuracy of communication.  When you join a new community it's a good idea to try not to pi$$ anyone off.

External hirings for administrative posts are sometimes a red flag.  And sometime they are not.
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« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2011, 02:43:40 PM »

I am confused as to where I am incorrect.  Can someone be removed for a misspelling?  Or if you respond to a rude comment, the senior member can decide you are banned?  I would think that is a moderator call. 

Of course being new is not a good way to start with a contraversial post, but since my OP was a sincere post, with a snarky response, it deemed a response in itself.  But, you are correct, if that is the tone of the entire baord / senior members, I assume self removal would be prudent - yet, it does still beg the question, is banning in order for a misspelling or when a senior member deems it so?   
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« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2011, 02:48:00 PM »

I am confused as to where I am incorrect.  Can someone be removed for a misspelling?  Or if you respond to a rude comment, the senior member can decide you are banned?  I would think that is a moderator call. 

Of course being new is not a good way to start with a contraversial post, but since my OP was a sincere post, with a snarky response, it deemed a response in itself.  But, you are correct, if that is the tone of the entire baord / senior members, I assume self removal would be prudent - yet, it does still beg the question, is banning in order for a misspelling or when a senior member deems it so?   
Did you mis-spell a word on purpose in the above?
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« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2011, 03:09:01 PM »

I am confused as to where I am incorrect.  Can someone be removed for a misspelling?  Or if you respond to a rude comment, the senior member can decide you are banned?  I would think that is a moderator call.  

Ok, I was kind of teasing you.  But there are definitely posters around here who are regarded with great respect and affection, partly because they help to sustain the community here in interesting and useful ways.  And often because they are witty and entertaining.  And they do all this without making too many spelling errors.

I am not one of these people.  But Fiona is. 

There are actually rules for this forum advising posters to use proper grammar, punctuation, spelling, etc.  We won't "remove" you for not proofreading, but you will perhaps annoy people who might otherwise offer you advice.  And some of the regular posters *are* moderators.  There are rules.  And then there is the culture.  The latter is harder to learn.

And now back to your regularly scheduled question-asking.
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« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2011, 03:19:45 PM »

OP: I would ask what happened to the last AD, and why they are hiring externally. The answers to those questions will tell you a lot about what you are getting into.

Also, ask yourself: why did they contact you? Are you going to guide them through the AACSB process? Or raise their research profile? Or start their exec programs?
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« Reply #14 on: September 15, 2011, 09:24:16 PM »

I am confused as to where I am incorrect.  Can someone be removed for a misspelling?  Or if you respond to a rude comment, the senior member can decide you are banned?  I would think that is a moderator call. 

Of course being new is not a good way to start with a contraversial post, but since my OP was a sincere post, with a snarky response, it deemed a response in itself.  But, you are correct, if that is the tone of the entire baord / senior members, I assume self removal would be prudent - yet, it does still beg the question, is banning in order for a misspelling or when a senior member deems it so?   

Don't get sidetracked by grammar issues.  Focus on your question, give as much info as you can, and you'll probably receive some helpful responses.
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