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« on: August 22, 2011, 12:59:11 PM » |
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Thought people might be interested in this article. Despite being part of the digital generation, what students don't know could fill the world wide web.
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« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2011, 03:13:47 PM » |
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Thought people might be interested in this article. Despite being part of the digital generation, what students don't know could fill the world wide web. Hmmm... Isn't the World Wide Web the repository for all the things students don't know?
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« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2011, 03:42:44 PM » |
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Hmm... good article. My initial thoughts are that the "problem" is that we're witnessing the first truly post-modern generation of college students, or at the very least, the first generation that has really taken post-modern culture to heart and make it work for themselves. If this is cultural, there is nothing that can be done to fix it short of another culture war to throw society back into the classical or modern mindset. Po-mo people should be encouraged by this news.
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« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2011, 03:48:53 PM » |
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Hmm... good article. My initial thoughts are that the "problem" is that we're witnessing the first truly post-modern generation of college students, or at the very least, the first generation that has really taken post-modern culture to heart and make it work for themselves.
Please explain.
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« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2011, 04:17:32 PM » |
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Hmm... good article. My initial thoughts are that the "problem" is that we're witnessing the first truly post-modern generation of college students, or at the very least, the first generation that has really taken post-modern culture to heart and make it work for themselves.
Please explain. Well... you know how post-modernism proposes that all "truths" are so rooted in culture as to make their meaning more about culture than objective truth. That's the academic version, anyway, and I doubt modern students care much about the academic roots of their beliefs, since to them the "street version" makes more sense. Each individual constructs their own meaningfulness, and social meaningfulness is the one thing they all share in common. If it has social value, it has meaning. I suppose this means that they probably wouldn't accept the academic version of post-modernism because it is too rooted in academic culture, in favor of their own version of post-modernism which is all about social value. In other words, they've out-po-mo'd the po-mo people. With regard to library and and related research skills, they simply don't see the social value in it, so they've never bothered. Furthermore, I believe their social-technical culture incrementally erodes their social and cognitive skills over time, which actually works against the intended "social value" of their belief system, although that's more of a side effect that doesn't have much to do with po-mo.
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« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2011, 04:21:14 PM » |
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« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2011, 04:48:22 PM » |
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Thought people might be interested in this article. Despite being part of the digital generation, what students don't know could fill the world wide web. Hmmm... Isn't the World Wide Web the repository for all the things students don't know? I used to hear this expression growing up about someone who was a know-it-all who actually knew very little - "What he doesn't know could fill a book." I was playing with that expression in my comment. To be perfectly honest though, what was said by my relatives was "What he don't know could fill a book!"
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« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2011, 07:58:34 PM » |
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I used to hear this expression growing up about someone who was a know-it-all who actually knew very little - "What he doesn't know could fill a book." I was playing with that expression in my comment. To be perfectly honest though, what was said by my relatives was "What he don't know could fill a book!"
Yes, I know what you mean... and judging from the growth of the Web, the extent of what students don't know is growing by leaps and bounds...
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« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2011, 07:33:32 AM » |
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Coincidentally, yesterday's newspaper had this comic about an inability to use search engines correctly.
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« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2011, 11:36:21 AM » |
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To be honest, I didn't really know how to make best use of the library until I had a 2-hour lecture by the department librarian on how to access and use the various resources available to us. The article mentions that faculty expected students to learn these skills in high school, but, in my experience, nobody in high school used the library for anything other than a study space and to use a computer for non-research tasks. High school assignments almost never require any research anymore, especially since those assignments are not directly related to anything on a standardized test.
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« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2011, 11:50:26 AM » |
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High school assignments almost never require any research anymore, especially since those assignments are not directly related to anything on a standardized test.
This is sadly so true. Love the comic pgher - how in the world do you pronounce your moniker?
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« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2011, 09:40:44 AM » |
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This is sadly so true.
Love the comic pgher - how in the world do you pronounce your moniker?
"Pgh" is a reasonably common abbreviation for "Pittsburgh," so "Pittsburgher." (Better than "piter".) Haven't lived there in 17 yrs, and don't have any family there any more, but it's still home.
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« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2011, 10:04:57 AM » |
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This is sadly so true.
Love the comic pgher - how in the world do you pronounce your moniker?
"Pgh" is a reasonably common abbreviation for "Pittsburgh," so "Pittsburgher." (Better than "piter".) Haven't lived there in 17 yrs, and don't have any family there any more, but it's still home. Well I guess I am neither reasonable nor common because I had not heard that before. Thanks, I always pronounce peoples' monikers in my head when I read or respond and this one had me tongue-tied. I'll be sure to think Pittsburgher and not the other. I have heard great things about Pittsburgh. Three faculty members I know have retired there in the last five years and they love the place.
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« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2011, 10:08:28 AM » |
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This is sadly so true.
Love the comic pgher - how in the world do you pronounce your moniker?
"Pgh" is a reasonably common abbreviation for "Pittsburgh," so "Pittsburgher." (Better than "piter".) Haven't lived there in 17 yrs, and don't have any family there any more, but it's still home. Well I guess I am neither reasonable nor common because I had not heard that before. Thanks, I always pronounce peoples' monikers in my head when I read or respond and this one had me tongue-tied. I'll be sure to think Pittsburgher and not the other. I have heard great things about Pittsburgh. Three faculty members I know have retired there in the last five years and they love the place. I hadn't heard that, either. I thought the moniker had something to do with pregnancy.
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Correct, as usual, TZ. That's because you are not Dude. TZ, however, is Dude. TZ is my favorite. I wish YOU began with A.
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