bria4272
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« on: August 07, 2011, 10:30:38 AM » |
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Hello:
I have been a Financial Advisor/Portfolio Manager for the past 12 years with a large regional bank brokerage firm in the Southeast. Prior to that, I was teaching full-time undergrad and MBA finance classes at a small business school for 3 years, while I completed my doctoral degree. Prior to full-time teaching, I taught evening courses as an adjunct at a larger regional college, while a full-time bank employee since 1987. I completed my DBA (Nova Southeastern University) in 1999, and I have a CFP certification and am working on my CFA certification. As I have been away from academia a long time, I'm trying to understand how marketable I would be at a small teaching institution and what the contract salary range would be for someone like myself. I also have never published, but I would like to begin that process as well.
This is my first ever posting in an on-line forum of any kind----any advice is greatly appreciated?
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caesura
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« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2011, 12:43:35 PM » |
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You might want to take a look at the thread about Nova in the "Interview Process" forum. (Warning: it won't make you happy.)
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mleok
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« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2011, 03:43:18 PM » |
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Hello:
I have been a Financial Advisor/Portfolio Manager for the past 12 years with a large regional bank brokerage firm in the Southeast. Prior to that, I was teaching full-time undergrad and MBA finance classes at a small business school for 3 years, while I completed my doctoral degree. Prior to full-time teaching, I taught evening courses as an adjunct at a larger regional college, while a full-time bank employee since 1987. I completed my DBA (Nova Southeastern University) in 1999, and I have a CFP certification and am working on my CFA certification. As I have been away from academia a long time, I'm trying to understand how marketable I would be at a small teaching institution and what the contract salary range would be for someone like myself. I also have never published, but I would like to begin that process as well.
This is my first ever posting in an on-line forum of any kind----any advice is greatly appreciated?
I think it would be exceptionally hard for a person who has never been published to break into academic publishing after a substantial break from academia. Without that, your chances of obtaining a full-time job at a traditional academic institution is vanishingly small. At the moment, my guess is that your main opportunities are as an adjunct (part-time, contingent) faculty member, or at a for-profit institution. In either case, I suspect thtat the salary would be a dramatic cut from what you're used to. |
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polly_mer
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« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2011, 04:00:09 PM » |
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You could probably adjunct. You could probably get a job in a job-training-type institution teaching some low-level business classes. Neither of those will pay anywhere near what you are likely making now.
Your chances at a TT position in a solid school (i.e., something above "if you are a warm body with tuition money, you're in") are likely very small with your doctorate from a poorly regarded institution and no publications. Even then, you likely wouldn't be paid very well (think slightly above the median for the standard income for the region for everyone) because academics in those places are usually middle middle class or lower incomes.
The places that pay well are unlikely to hire someone with your qualifications when they can get people with doctorates from impressive places and those people will be well published.
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If you haven't got either the anatomical or metaphorical balls to post your own question on a pseudonymous internet forum, then academia is the wrong job for you.
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« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2011, 04:26:03 PM » |
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Here's something more upbeat.
You can start by becoming an academic. That means doing research and publishing it. I'm not sure how to go about this in your field, but that is the start on this road if that's what you choose.
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mleok
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« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2011, 06:11:46 PM » |
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Here's something more upbeat.
You can start by becoming an academic. That means doing research and publishing it. I'm not sure how to go about this in your field, but that is the start on this road if that's what you choose.
Before doing any of this, you need to find out if your stated goal of working at a small institution in your field is something you actually want to do. Find out how much it pays, and what the job expectations are. I assume that is the purpose of your post? If on the other hand, you'll just been laid off at work, and are trying too see if this is a viable career alternative, just be aware that it'll be a long road, and unless you derive some sort of intrinsic pleasure from teaching and doing research, you will likely find that this is less rewarding (certainly financially) than what you are used to. |
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watermarkup
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« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2011, 11:39:34 PM » |
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Has your career so far made you independently wealthy, or at least given you savings to rely on for the rest of your life? If so, then keep reading.
Are you willing to move to a lower-rung CC or regional comprehensive in an unpopular location, handle a high teaching load, and earn a very modest salary? If so, I think there's a decent chance that your experience might be in demand and your credentials wouldn't be a deal breaker at some schools that have a hard time attracting business faculty. Your prior teaching experience will be a plus.
If there are schools where the applicant pool is limited in other ways (for example, you can enthusiastically sign the school's statement of faith), your chances will go up.
I'm not in your field, but if you want to return to teaching, probably the first step is to look for a chance to teach a course as an adjunct to get some recent teaching experience. I don't know enough about your field to say if getting into research is possible, impossible, or even necessary for the kind of job you have in mind.
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lizardmom1
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« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2011, 12:06:26 AM » |
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You could apply to one of the online universities... Or, you could apply to your alma mater.
Other than that, I would say your opportunities are very limited. But, I am not familiar with your field, so please take my words with a grain of salt.
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Lizardmom1
... been there, done that, and I don't even have a crummy t-shirt to show for my efforts....
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betterslac
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« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2011, 04:39:47 AM » |
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Are you willing to move to a lower-rung CC or regional comprehensive in an unpopular location, handle a high teaching load, and earn a very modest salary? If so, I think there's a decent chance that your experience might be in demand and your credentials wouldn't be a deal breaker at some schools that have a hard time attracting business faculty. Your prior teaching experience will be a plus.
This is probably your best case scenario. At the two slacs where I have taught (one small and remote, the other a bit bigger and in a better location and somewhat better academically), you would be competitive for openings in the business department, but the pay would be low and they would expect you to be engaged in some type of professional development activities. I would google faculty with your credentials, see where they are, how many there are, and determine whether, as a best case scenario, you would be happy if you career turned out as did theirs. |
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