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« on: July 25, 2011, 04:33:35 AM » |
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Well, 2011 is more than half over (thank God) but this came out just in time for the next round of searches (if there are any in your field): http://chronicle.com/article/Great-Colleges-to-Work-For/128312/ |
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« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2011, 09:04:07 AM » |
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So, no colleges in Oregon or Washington or Northern California (heck, outside of LA) made the list?
I call shenanigans.
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« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2011, 10:05:00 AM » |
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So, no colleges in Oregon or Washington or Northern California (heck, outside of LA) made the list?
I call shenanigans.
Why is this so hard to believe? |
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« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2011, 10:37:27 AM » |
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Two former institutions and my current one show up on the list--the two former ones surprise me to some extent, though senior management has changed and things may be better than they were (though they weren't terrible); the current one does not surprise me a bit, as it is one of the best places I've ever worked.
My most recent institution does not show up on the list, which is accurate as it is a horrible place to work.
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« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2011, 10:43:32 AM » |
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So, no colleges in Oregon or Washington or Northern California (heck, outside of LA) made the list?
I call shenanigans.
Why is this so hard to believe? 1. The sheer number of colleges in California. 2. The number of "progressive, student-centered" institutions in NorCal and Oregon (esp. Portland). It's interesting to me that two "ground zero" areas for tolerance and the liberal arts (SF and Portland) have no colleges on this list. |
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« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2011, 11:04:30 AM » |
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What's interesting to me is how many teaching-centered comprehensives show up (rather than the elite SLACs or R1s). What do you suppose that's about?
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« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2011, 11:08:46 AM » |
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What's interesting to me is how many teaching-centered comprehensives show up (rather than the elite SLACs or R1s). What do you suppose that's about?
I'm guessing that not all areas were weighed equally. "Teaching Environment" might be worth more than Compensation or Leadership. It would be interesting to know what their methodology was. FWIW, I know people in Miami: Why Miami-Dade CC has been on the "honor role" for three years is a mystery. |
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« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2011, 11:10:27 AM » |
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I'm a little surprised, but not shocked that my immediate past employer is not on the list. While it does not shock me that my current employer is not listed, I have to say that I am happy here.
My undergrad made the list. Although I did not work there, I can certainly see why it has been on the list pretty consistently over the last few years.
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« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2011, 11:13:21 AM » |
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My uni is listed 3rd year in a row. I'm shocked that the average adminstrator salary is more than double my current salary. Not that I want an admin job.
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« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2011, 11:27:25 AM » |
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2. The number of "progressive, student-centered" institutions in NorCal and Oregon (esp. Portland).
Great places for students aren't necessarily great places to work, and vice versa. My PhD institution is on one of the lists. My present institution is not on any list. While I am more or less happy with this department, I think there is sufficient displeasure with the upper echelon that would exclude its appearance on these lists. |
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« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2011, 11:42:32 AM » |
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I'm also wondering if the current budget system in California had any effect on the ratings. I mean, not a single UC campus was on the list? The top public universities in the country (some would say the world)? Hmm..
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« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2011, 11:49:43 AM » |
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So, no colleges in Oregon or Washington or Northern California (heck, outside of LA) made the list?
I call shenanigans.
Why is this so hard to believe? 1. The sheer number of colleges in California. 2. The number of "progressive, student-centered" institutions in NorCal and Oregon (esp. Portland). It's interesting to me that two "ground zero" areas for tolerance and the liberal arts (SF and Portland) have no colleges on this list. I suspect it may have something to do with compensation. Notoriously expensive places to live, notoriously low salaries. |
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« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2011, 01:17:45 PM » |
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As an old hand at survey research, I'd want to see the list of colleges that actually submitted data before evaluating how representative the results are.
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« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2011, 03:05:03 PM » |
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I'm also wondering if the current budget system in California had any effect on the ratings. I mean, not a single UC campus was on the list? The top public universities in the country (some would say the world)? Hmm..
Again, it's evaluating the university as a place to work, not as a place to study. The UC schools of note are in some of the most expensive cities in the country. A friend interviewed at UC Berkeley, and they told him that they would offer (should he be offered the position) help for a down payment. That help: $30,000. Not nothing, but not much either. |
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« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2011, 06:35:03 PM » |
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I am shocked, shocked I say, to see that, with all the Texas colleges listed here, they do not list aTm!
Where else do you find Regents so concerned for the faculty's welfare that they're willing to spend serious institutional money and tons of their own time just to eliminate hard thinking and take decision-making responsibility off the faculty's shoulders?
Where else do you find a college where the Presdent sends out a weekly email congratulating people for even (especially) the most minor accomplishments?
I could go on, but I think I just heard my keeper ward monitor best friend in the world coming.
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