slavinzing56
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« on: July 04, 2011, 04:49:35 AM » |
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I was wondering what other people's thoughts were online Ed.D. degrees? To be honest, I'm looking at an online program (that would include three campus visits a year) in Florida and I'm not sure if it's worth it. Will the degree be worth the paper it's written on? I'm very interested in the program, and I think the subject matter would be beneficial in my career (I'm an administrator), but, obviously, that doesn't matter if it's worthless. Comments? Suggestions?
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« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2011, 05:32:27 AM » |
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Technically, you are describing a low residency program. In any case, face-to-face doctoral programs are more respected, but it depends on your career goals. IMHO, a low res doctorate will be OK if your goal is to move up the ranks in administration in a fair to middlin' sort of school. Also if you would describe yourself as a mid career learner who needs to attend a doctoral program part time.
If you are asking about Nova, it has a pretty good rep among non traditional programs. In any case, do not -- repeat do not -- even consider a doctorate from a for profit school. (Nova SE is non profit.)
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polly_mer
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« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2011, 08:05:10 AM » |
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What do you plan to do with that terminal degree?
If you are checking a box to get more money in your current position, non-profit low-residency terminal degrees are fine.
If, however, you will want to use that degree as a credential in academia, then you need to look at people who have the kinds of jobs you want. From where are their degrees? Some fields will be receptive to working full-time as a professional in the field with a low-residency terminal degree from specific institutions. However, few places will be happy with a completely online terminal degree in any field.
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« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2011, 03:38:26 PM » |
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It's ok to ask the school where others from fl school x are with their Ed.D. You can also ask if you can talk to them and find out how they felt about the program. Ask an administrator at your current school whether they'd hire an EdD from that paticular school . In these cases, knowledge is power.
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« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2011, 03:46:53 PM » |
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There are several threads in the fora regarding this. I would recommend reading those after you read these posts. Nova isn't a terrible school, but the process isn't highly regarded. If you are going to get an online degree get one from a more traditional state school. You might also look into an executive cohort program. These offer a classroom experience, but minimum residency. Most of these programs meet for one weekend per month for 2-3 years. This would be a step up from your current solution. I hope this helps.
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« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2011, 04:30:58 PM » |
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Ed.D. programs are suspicious enough, add online delivery and you will find a lot of skepticism towards your degree. Still, I think it is fine if you already have a job and your college president has said something like "Bubba, I want to promote you to Dean of Student Services when Jethro retires in four years, but you need some more letters after your name." If on the other hand you will be entering the job market with this degree as your primary qualification, it may prove tough.
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« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2011, 06:28:12 AM » |
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Ed.D. programs are suspicious enough, add online delivery and you will find a lot of skepticism towards your degree. Still, I think it is fine if you already have a job and your college president has said something like "Bubba, I want to promote you to Dean of Student Services when Jethro retires in four years, but you need some more letters after your name." If on the other hand you will be entering the job market with this degree as your primary qualification, it may prove tough.
I really don't understand why some people discredit EdDs on this message board. It is arrogant, ignorant, and offensive. Your comments demonstrate that you do not understand the nature and purpose of the EdD. That is unfortunate. |
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polly_mer
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« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2011, 06:50:36 AM » |
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Ed.D. programs are suspicious enough, add online delivery and you will find a lot of skepticism towards your degree. Still, I think it is fine if you already have a job and your college president has said something like "Bubba, I want to promote you to Dean of Student Services when Jethro retires in four years, but you need some more letters after your name." If on the other hand you will be entering the job market with this degree as your primary qualification, it may prove tough.
I really don't understand why some people discredit EdDs on this message board. It is arrogant, ignorant, and offensive. Your comments demonstrate that you do not understand the nature and purpose of the EdD. That is unfortunate. Did you read the OP? The OP asked about doing an online terminal degree. Online terminal degrees are not worth diddly on the academic job market. That has nothing to do with an EdD and everything to do with perceived quality of online degrees in the academic market. Defend the EdD if you feel a need, but at least pick a post that attacks the EdD as a credential instead of pointing out that online degrees are not going to get anyone an academic job. |
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« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2011, 06:59:05 AM » |
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Ed.D. programs are suspicious enough, add online delivery and you will find a lot of skepticism towards your degree. Still, I think it is fine if you already have a job and your college president has said something like "Bubba, I want to promote you to Dean of Student Services when Jethro retires in four years, but you need some more letters after your name." If on the other hand you will be entering the job market with this degree as your primary qualification, it may prove tough.
I really don't understand why some people discredit EdDs on this message board. It is arrogant, ignorant, and offensive. Your comments demonstrate that you do not understand the nature and purpose of the EdD. That is unfortunate. Did you read the OP? The OP asked about doing an online terminal degree. Online terminal degrees are not worth diddly on the academic job market. That has nothing to do with an EdD and everything to do with perceived quality of online degrees in the academic market. Defend the EdD if you feel a need, but at least pick a post that attacks the EdD as a credential instead of pointing out that online degrees are not going to get anyone an academic job. Aristotlex has, as of this moment, four posts (one of which is a double, apparently), and in every one of them he/she uses one or both of the words "arrogant" and "ignorant." There is also apparently a reading comprehension problem and a failure to have sussed out how the fora work, either by lurking or by reading the posting rules. All in all, I predict great things. VP |
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polly_mer
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« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2011, 07:26:09 AM » |
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Ed.D. programs are suspicious enough, add online delivery and you will find a lot of skepticism towards your degree. Still, I think it is fine if you already have a job and your college president has said something like "Bubba, I want to promote you to Dean of Student Services when Jethro retires in four years, but you need some more letters after your name." If on the other hand you will be entering the job market with this degree as your primary qualification, it may prove tough.
I really don't understand why some people discredit EdDs on this message board. It is arrogant, ignorant, and offensive. Your comments demonstrate that you do not understand the nature and purpose of the EdD. That is unfortunate. Did you read the OP? The OP asked about doing an online terminal degree. Online terminal degrees are not worth diddly on the academic job market. That has nothing to do with an EdD and everything to do with perceived quality of online degrees in the academic market. Defend the EdD if you feel a need, but at least pick a post that attacks the EdD as a credential instead of pointing out that online degrees are not going to get anyone an academic job. Aristotlex has, as of this moment, four posts (one of which is a double, apparently), and in every one of them he/she uses one or both of the words "arrogant" and "ignorant." There is also apparently a reading comprehension problem and a failure to have sussed out how the fora work, either by lurking or by reading the posting rules. All in all, I predict great things. VP Having now done my background reading, yes, great things are in store for an educationalist who has to tell us how prestigious an institution is, an institution of which I've never heard and I read a lot in the educational literature. |
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dalila
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« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2011, 04:52:14 PM » |
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Online degrees are actually very valid, and in most cases that I am aware of, are just as respected. I actually have several friends who have earned their degree online, and who are working very successfully in their respective fields. At the moment, I am currently working toward an online degree, and I can tell you first hand that it is no joke. I would even go as far as to say that sometimes it seems that I work harder than I would were I attending on campus, the curriculum is very demanding, and I can easily put in upwards of 8 hours a day on my assignments. If online is what works for you, I say go for it!
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« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2011, 07:40:58 PM » |
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Online degrees are actually very valid, and in most cases that I am aware of, are just as respected.
Give an example in academia. Very, very few terminal online degrees will get you a job in a non-online institution as an academic. University of Phoenix may be just the ticket for people who only want a promotion in industry, but spending upwards of 8 hours a day on graduate classwork past the first semester or two indicates that the program is set up wrong; graduate school is about research, not classes. |
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larryc
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« Reply #12 on: September 22, 2011, 08:14:38 PM » |
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I really don't understand why some people discredit EdDs on this message board. Experience. |
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« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2011, 09:02:22 AM » |
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I was wondering what other people's thoughts were online Ed.D. degrees? To be honest, I'm looking at an online program (that would include three campus visits a year) in Florida and I'm not sure if it's worth it. Will the degree be worth the paper it's written on? I'm very interested in the program, and I think the subject matter would be beneficial in my career (I'm an administrator), but, obviously, that doesn't matter if it's worthless. Comments? Suggestions?
It depends on the degree and the university. There are some onliners that are held in high regard -- and don't forget that Harvard and MIT are online. U of MD is online and the list goes on and on. There are some that are frankly just degree mills, so you have to do your homework. You may want to get the Ed.S. first from the school, which is a way to test the curriculum and the instruction and then apply for the Ed.D. The Ed.S. can be transferred to another school that offers the Ed.D. |
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« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2011, 09:06:53 AM » |
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Ed.D. programs are suspicious enough, add online delivery and you will find a lot of skepticism towards your degree. Still, I think it is fine if you already have a job and your college president has said something like "Bubba, I want to promote you to Dean of Student Services when Jethro retires in four years, but you need some more letters after your name." If on the other hand you will be entering the job market with this degree as your primary qualification, it may prove tough.
I agree with this remark. You see it a lot in the public schools. Teacher has a B.Ed. and wants to earn more money and/or move up. The school system doesn't give them a list of universities to consider (although they should!)....they just say, get the extra 30 CH / Masters degree and you get more pay. So as long as the university is accredited, they don't care where the degree came from. I don't think they care if you had a B average or an A average. So it depends on what your intentions are. You mention administrative, so there must have been a conversation about getting credentials to apply for an administrative position? |
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