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« on: April 19, 2011, 09:45:35 PM » |
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If this doesn't belong here, I apologize. I went to a birthday party tonight for one of my committee members. She praises my work all the time (note: my chair brings me back down to earth by constantly riding me, so this isn't meant to be a "look at me thread"). Anyway, apparently the she told the Dean about my work. The Dean works on an earlier variation of my topic. I've met with the Dean in the pat under horrible circumstances. My TA position was cut abruptly and I actually went to lodge a formal complaint. She had no empathy and basically ended the meeting telling me "that's what it means to be a student." Tonight, committee member told me that the Dean really wants to speak with me (little does she know that we've already met). Anyway, I'm very hesitant about this meeting. Is it important to go? I'm feeling intimidated. I'm just a student and I don't think I have anything to offer.
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Mountainguy (on rejection letter thread):
This sounds very Foucauldian. "You do not apply to search committee; the search committee applies to you!!"
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larryc
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« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2011, 10:47:35 PM » |
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This is an opportunity. I would remind your committee member that you have met the dean and it was less than auspicious. See what she says. But then go and see the dean, say nothing about the late unpleasantness, and aim to please.
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« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2011, 11:12:22 PM » |
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Yeah, it's like I meet people who didn't give me jobs I applied for all the time. No big deal.
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zharkov
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« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2011, 05:14:30 AM » |
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Deans often like to meet with their students just to get a sense of how programs under their jurisdiction are working out from a student's point of view. And to look at it from another angle, I recall you are ABD, and the dean is the one who signs off on your dissertation. So you don't want to create some kind of wrong impression by refusing to meet.
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__________ Zharkov's Razor: Adapting Zharkov a bit to this situation, ignorance and confusion can explain a lot.
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testingthewaters
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« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2011, 05:47:44 AM » |
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Meet with the dean.
In all likelihood, your previous meeting made much more of an impression on you than on your dean. Take this as an opportunity to meet and talk about something more pleasant for everyone involved- your research.
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westcoastgirl
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« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2011, 10:04:34 AM » |
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Thanks. I will contact my committee member and ask how I should go about approaching her. Though we had a bad meeting, I find her work absolutely fascinating and have assigned it again and again in my classes (just so I could have an excuse to read it!).
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Mountainguy (on rejection letter thread):
This sounds very Foucauldian. "You do not apply to search committee; the search committee applies to you!!"
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« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2011, 10:24:42 AM » |
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Go with that: always focus on the positive, as a pre-emptive strategy. What do you like about her work? How is your work informed by hers? How have your students benefited from her work? And would you be interested in teaching a course that deals specifically with her topic? Would you want to RA for her or collaborate with her? I find her work absolutely fascinating and have assigned it again and again in my classes (just so I could have an excuse to read it!).
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anthroid
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« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2011, 05:55:36 PM » |
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Thanks. I will contact my committee member and ask how I should go about approaching her. Though we had a bad meeting, I find her work absolutely fascinating and have assigned it again and again in my classes (just so I could have an excuse to read it!).
And she may know that and want to share. Take the meeting but absolutely get advice from your allies (e.g., committee member) before doing it. I am confident that you will do great, WCG! You have so much to offer the academy. |
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Do you hail from Planet Hello Kitty? It's like an action movie, but boring.
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westcoastgirl
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« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2011, 09:58:25 AM » |
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Thanks. I will contact my committee member and ask how I should go about approaching her. Though we had a bad meeting, I find her work absolutely fascinating and have assigned it again and again in my classes (just so I could have an excuse to read it!).
And she may know that and want to share. Take the meeting but absolutely get advice from your allies (e.g., committee member) before doing it. I am confident that you will do great, WCG! You have so much to offer the academy. Thank you so much for these kind words, Anthroid. I'm actually going to email her tomorrow to set up an appointment. I'm going to discuss my first chapter with her (which I'm going to revise). I think she can help me quite a bit. Even if she remembers me, it's not a big deal; I wasn't rude or anything--I just felt defeated at the end of the meeting. |
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Mountainguy (on rejection letter thread):
This sounds very Foucauldian. "You do not apply to search committee; the search committee applies to you!!"
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larryc
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« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2011, 11:04:06 AM » |
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If you are assigning her work in your classes you should be inviting her to come and talk to the class. You might raise that in your meeting. She will be enormously flattered and say yes, the students will be impressed that you brought in a real author.
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