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« on: April 11, 2011, 06:30:56 PM » |
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The last drop date for my online course has passed. My official drop rate this semester (required upper level course in the major) is 30%.
How does your drop rate compare? I'm curious. 30% seems high to me...
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« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2011, 09:15:38 PM » |
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Bookmarking. I'd like to get an idea in prepping for a new hybrid course in the fall.
This has been an abysmal semester in terms of attrition for my f2f classes. I blame the snow. I have one course that started at 25 and, as of last week, 5 were still attending regularly.
I'm curious if hybrids have a lower attrition rate than fully online courses. I'll have to look that up. Or if someone has that stat at hand . . .
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« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2011, 09:17:09 PM » |
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Marking too. I'll look at my records tomorrow afternoon and get back to you.
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« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2011, 09:32:36 PM » |
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30% was about average for me. Sometimes it went to %40. But that was teaching a reading-intensive survey to unmotivated freshmen. Teaching grad classes I lose hardly anyone.
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« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2011, 06:09:24 AM » |
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Bookmarking. I'd like to get an idea in prepping for a new hybrid course in the fall.
This has been an abysmal semester in terms of attrition for my f2f classes. I blame the snow. I have one course that started at 25 and, as of last week, 5 were still attending regularly.
I'm curious if hybrids have a lower attrition rate than fully online courses. I'll have to look that up. Or if someone has that stat at hand . . .
The snow (7 snow day closures?) was definitely a factor in my f2f classes. I'm teaching one online and one hybrid in the fall (different course from the online I'm teaching now, and sophomores rather than upperclasspeople) and another hybrid that is same as the current online course, so I'll have more data on drops then (and no snow days to interact). I wish I'd tracked drops last semester in my f2f course (which is same course as current online one). I don't know if I can back into that data or not, but I'm going to try. |
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It is our choices that show what we truly are, far more than our abilities. Professor Dumbledore
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« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2011, 08:45:01 AM » |
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I teach mostly froshpeeps at a CC, and my drop rate is 40-50%. And I really bend over backwards employing all of the best practices for student retention.
In my 200-level classes, things go a lot better.
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« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2011, 08:46:18 AM » |
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I teach graduate courses online. My usual drop rate is zero.
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« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2011, 08:47:00 AM » |
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Attrition rates for my required online courses at a CC are around 50%. That's typical for the institution.
No, the institution is not making efforts to reconsider its recruitment and advising practices. *hiss*
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« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2011, 08:57:28 AM » |
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I don't have specific statistics, but my drop rate for the hybrid survey (more non-majors than majors) seems to be a bit higher than f2f classes. But when they don't come to the (once weekly) class meeting or logon to do the online work, what can I do?
It's easier for the ones who aren't serious to ignore the class until it's too late. Then again, I don't have nearly as many who barely pass or nearly pass. They either do better or completely bomb.
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« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2011, 09:04:36 AM » |
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I think it depends a lot on the course, and the level for sure. My entry level classes, I can lose up to 50%. However, even the second course in a series that rate reduces by quite a bit.
For example: med-term versus anatomy or anatomy I versus II. I lose a lot less in the second in the series.
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« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2011, 12:44:42 PM » |
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My experience at my CC is that my online class attrition rate is about 40%, and face-to-face about 25%. But my online classes are eight-week accellerated classes, so it's not really comparable.
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« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2011, 03:55:29 PM » |
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Ok. So last summer I had 72 students take my online intro to science for non-majors class. Three students dropped the course and 3 other earned an F because they stopped participating and stopped taking the exams. So I assume that those 3 intended to drop but forgot to do so. So let's just say 6 drops. That's 8%. I don't why the drop rate is so low for a required intro class for non-majors. My class isn't all that, but I'm working on it. I do hound the slackers from the get-go to get with the program. If they are falling behind, they get an email from me and they keep getting them until they are back on track. Perhaps that's because I'm paid by the student in the summer!
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« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2011, 04:09:25 PM » |
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Attrition rates for my required online courses at a CC are around 50%. That's typical for the institution.
No, the institution is not making efforts to reconsider its recruitment and advising practices. *hiss*
I'll second that hiss and wish a pox their way. Some lazy advisors dump students into internet courses so the courses "fit the schedule" and they can take an undeserved break. Uggers. My CC developmental writing internet courses lose 50-60% (but the ones that do the work are a pleasure to teach). My freshizzle comp. online courses lose 30-45%, depending on the class. My freshizzle intro to lit online courses lose 25-35%. Sophomore lit online courses tend to have the motivated students who have survived the "weeding" process, so the loss rate generally doesn't go below 25%. |
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« Reply #13 on: April 13, 2011, 10:47:40 AM » |
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The last drop date for my online course has passed. My official drop rate this semester (required upper level course in the major) is 30%.
How does your drop rate compare? I'm curious. 30% seems high to me...
I wish I'd tracked drops last semester in my f2f course (which is same course as current online one). I don't know if I can back into that data or not, but I'm going to try.
OK, I could back into the enrollment data for the Fall version of that course (which was f2f). [upper level course in the major, most students take in junior year, some in senior]Drop rate ~10% for ftf Fall course vesus Drop rate ~30% for online Spring course The coming Fall semester, this course will be hybrid, so yet another different data point. |
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Let us consider that we are all partially insane. It will explain us to each other; it will unriddle many riddles; it will make clear and simple many things... Mark Twain
It is our choices that show what we truly are, far more than our abilities. Professor Dumbledore
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« Reply #14 on: April 22, 2011, 04:00:05 PM » |
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I had 0 drops this semester and one last semester. But this class is required for the major, there are no possible substitutes, and I'm the only one in the entire University who teaches it. So...dropping it just means they have to take it again with me later and then be at least a semester behind to graduate.
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