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Author Topic: Is there a rule of thumb related to University Names when accepting an offer?  (Read 17758 times)
whosthere
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« on: April 06, 2011, 03:43:35 PM »

A professor just told me that if you have an offer from lets say,

University of X or X State University
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a university with Eastern, Western, Southern, Northern, etc as prefix.

The rule of thumb says choose the one without a directional prefix.

Is there a prestige issue attached with names? I know there are exceptions, but I am talking in general.

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« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2011, 03:52:35 PM »

Or "junior" in the name--such as Leland Stanford Junior University.
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« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2011, 03:57:02 PM »

Or "junior" in the name--such as Leland Stanford Junior University.

Haha. That's funny but not helpful. I said please don't talk about exceptions.

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« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2011, 03:58:16 PM »

It appears you are not very familiar with US higher education.

In general, in state university systems, the flagship campuses will not have a direction in their names.   The secondary (for lack of a better word) campuses will.

However, this does not apply to all states.  For example, the states of Ohio and Massachusetts do not put a direction in the names of non-flagship campuses.
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« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2011, 04:01:08 PM »

It appears you are not very familiar with US higher education.

In general, in state university systems, the flagship campuses will not have a direction in their names.   The secondary (for lack of a better word) campuses will.

However, this does not apply to all states.  For example, the states of Ohio and Massachusetts do not put a direction in the names of non-flagship campuses.

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« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2011, 04:02:25 PM »

A professor just told me that if you have an offer from lets say,

University of X or X State University
v/s
a university with Eastern, Western, Southern, Northern, etc as prefix.

The rule of thumb says choose the one without a directional prefix.

Is there a prestige issue attached with names? I know there are exceptions, but I am talking in general.



No, there is not a rule of thumb.

Here, we have both an Eastern X and Western X that are comparable to the X State U, if not superior in some disciplines. As others said, many states don't use such designators at all (i.e. MA, CA, TX just off the top of my head). Then there are schools like the University of Southern Maine which are in cool cities.

Are you in such a position now - where you have multiple offers to choose from? If not, worry about other, more pressing things.
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« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2011, 04:16:01 PM »

I work at a school that in the not so distant past changed its name to eliminate the direction, due precisely to this perception. It was a significant part of changing the profile of the institution.
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« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2011, 04:42:29 PM »

It.  Depends.

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« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2011, 05:06:39 PM »

Do not take a job at Nadir U.  There's no further down you can go.
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« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2011, 05:06:49 PM »

BTW, if you have offers such as those in this example, you should have way more information by now on which to base your decision than just the name!
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« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2011, 05:11:32 PM »

BTW, if you have offers such as those in this example, you should have way more information by now on which to base your decision than just the name!

You're right and I was inclined towards the directional school. But then this prof pops in and says this! So I wanted to get an opinion.

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« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2011, 05:12:23 PM »

It.  Depends.

Lord, I am dying to know what dimension you're from.

I am from dimension number 1123791273. Does that help?

Your answers are just like this. Why do you even bother posting anything?

"It. Depends." Yeah that helps a lot as if no one knew that.

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« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2011, 05:15:09 PM »

BTW, if you have offers such as those in this example, you should have way more information by now on which to base your decision than just the name!

You're right and I was inclined towards the directional school. But then this prof pops in and says this! So I wanted to get an opinion.



My point is, that even if his rule of thumb is true (non-directional = higher ranked) that does not mean it is a better place to work.
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« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2011, 05:28:49 PM »

It.  Depends.

Lord, I am dying to know what dimension you're from.

Your answers are just like this. Why do you even bother posting anything?

"It. Depends." Yeah that helps a lot as if no one knew that.


a) Because I can.

b) Well, if you knew it already, what are you asking for?  Some Directionally Named Schools are among the best in the US.  Some are sh*tholes.  Do your research or give us actual school names so that we can give you actual information.
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« Reply #14 on: April 06, 2011, 05:29:29 PM »

I once turned down a job offer from Northwestern University because I didn't want to work at a directional.

Did I make a mistake?
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