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rugger101
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« on: February 01, 2011, 10:33:10 PM »

Starting a new topic regarding something other than religion

I'm just curious as to how many deans and chairs carry professional liability insurance and whether you think it is worth while?  Any recommended carriers?

I'm considering purchasing coverage since a lot of health, safety, and employment issues are part of my position.
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anthroid
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« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2011, 11:08:21 PM »

Nope.  Never.  Anything that you do as a result of your duties really has to be covered by your employer.  Check with your university counsel, but I would NEVER pay for this--if there was some reason to be separately covered (and I just cannot imagine a situation in which this would be a good idea), it still ought to be paid for by the university.  Someone may try to sue you individually, but (assuming you're not an idiot and that you don't routinely do stupid things) your university lawyer would be able to argue, successfully, that the particular lawsuit must be dismissed or joined with the larger suit.

Don't succumb.  Make your university pony up on this.
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« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2011, 01:42:08 PM »

My professional organization also covers me with a certain amount of liability insurance, so that's worth checking into. Echoing Anthroid's comment that you're covered "assuming you're not an idiot and that you don't routinely do stupid things" . . . my understanding is that as long as I'm acting within the boundaries of my job duties I'm covered by the school's insurance. If I, say, punch somebody in the nose, I'm not.

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« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2011, 11:18:28 AM »

There was a discussion on another thread that I can't find right now in which it was pointed out that the interests of the employer and the employee may diverge.  In such cases, the employee can be SOL without her/his own lawyer.  I once worked at a major university that everyone has heard of where the board of regents actually considered not supporting a staff member in a high profile case.  As a result, I've always had my own professional liability coverage through one professional association or another.  The hundred dollars I pay for it each year is worth it if only for the peace of mind the coverage provides.  It's a tax deductable expense for those who itemize.
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« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2011, 02:48:25 PM »

I had a section on liability coverage written explicitly into my contract. So if the university where I work decided to pull something like what michigander described, I could turn around and sue them for breach of contract.
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« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2011, 02:54:13 PM »

Anything that you do as a result of your duties really has to be covered by your employer. 

This is simply not true.

Check into your own employer's policies. Here at my university, I will be indemnified for my actions that result from performance of my professional duties if and only if my employer determines that I have taken those actions in good faith. This leaves my employer with a huge loophole.
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« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2011, 06:44:38 PM »

Anything that you do as a result of your duties really has to be covered by your employer. 

This is simply not true.

Check into your own employer's policies. Here at my university, I will be indemnified for my actions that result from performance of my professional duties if and only if my employer determines that I have taken those actions in good faith. This leaves my employer with a huge loophole.

Not mine.  It is the judge, mediator, arbitrator, or other objective finder of fact, and not the employer, who has the right to make that determination.  I've had administrative responsibilities for the last ten years across three different colleges/universities, and I worked as a paralegal and family therapist (not at the same time) for ten years at the beginning of my professional life, and it's always been clear that as long as my actions have been ethical and/or reasonable and have been performed as a normal part of my job, as determined by an objective party (e.g., the state licensing agency for family therapy), I was covered by my employers' malpractice/liability insurance policies.  It actually has never come up--there has never been a lawsuit involving my department or any of my clients.

It's too bad your employer is so rigid, CC; I would never agree to a contract under those conditions.  Can you get someone to renegotiate this for you?  It really is highly unusual in my 30 years of experience in the work world, almost all of which has involved some kind of liability potential.
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