planetofregret
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« on: December 03, 2010, 01:26:38 PM » |
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Hello everyone,
I graduated from a fancy ivy league college in 2002, only to have my degree revoked a year later when they found one of my papers wasn't mine.
I've spent the eight years since paying for that egregious mistake by punishing myself in every way possible, and now, 31, penniless, and living at home, I'm finally ready to give myself a second chance. (end of sob story)
My question is: what are my options? Can I feasibly apply to schools as a transfer student? Most schools want someone who is in "good standing" with their former university -- does this include me (or my credits, at least?)
I'm willing to do pretty much anything -- community college, start over from scratch, etc -- but I would appreciate any guidance you might have in regard to my situation.
Thanks for your time.
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methodsman
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« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2010, 01:43:21 PM » |
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How in the world did they one year later find out one of your paper's was plagiarized? Did you brag to someone? Did they audit your course work? Did someone report you?
What is your official status at your previous college? How will a transfer college view your transcript/status? You have to ask the registrars office of a (potential) receiving college. You probably could transfer some credits to a low level 4-year if they can look the other way. Either way, if you are ambitious and unemployed, you'll have no problem taking 21 credits a semester and knocking out a baccalaureate in under three years. Just do it.
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planetofregret
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« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2010, 01:59:10 PM » |
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Thank you for your reply, MM. I was reported by another student -- I minored in creative writing, and he recognized part of one of the stories I submitted for my final project as belonging to another author. It was a childish, immature mistake on my part.
I was informed of the decision about eight months after graduation, and at the time I opted out of a trial hearing (I knew I was guilty, after all).
So does another school have to "look the other way" for me to transfer some credits over? I'm looking at schools in the University of California / Cal State system, but if that's a stretch I can set my sights a bit lower. The important thing is to get a degree.
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methodsman
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« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2010, 02:11:11 PM » |
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Again, feel around for some answers as to how a transfer college will view you and your transcript. What is their policy on expelled students/revoked degrees? Maybe they don't care because they require you to take at least x% of your degree courses at their college and they need the money. Go forth and ask young man.
mm
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planetofregret
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« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2010, 02:19:16 PM » |
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Okay, time to face the music. Thank you MM -- this helped!
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« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2010, 03:13:36 PM » |
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Set up meetings with a couple of admissions offices, and be upfront with them. Will they be willing to accept Ivy League credits? Will they be willing to enroll someone smart enough to get admitted to Ivy League school, and therefore likely to do very well at their school? Will they accept your tuition dollars? Will they be willing to look beyond a decade-old academic crime (which they know is also being committed by a good chunk of their students)? I think the answer to these questions will be Yes. If that's not the case, you could try a less open approach with other schools.
I am a hardass on plagiarism, but you've paid for your crime. If it was me, I'd admit you. The horrendous results of what you did make it likely you will be scrupulously honest this time round.
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zharkov
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« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2010, 03:20:13 PM » |
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Thank you for your reply, MM. I was reported by another student -- I minored in creative writing, and he recognized part of one of the stories I submitted for my final project as belonging to another author. It was a childish, immature mistake on my part.
Hey, I read that book, too, Old School by Tobias Wolff. |
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__________ Zharkov's Razor: Adapting Zharkov a bit to this situation, ignorance and confusion can explain a lot.
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« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2010, 07:04:04 AM » |
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Set up meetings with a couple of admissions offices, and be upfront with them. Will they be willing to accept Ivy League credits? Will they be willing to enroll someone smart enough to get admitted to Ivy League school, and therefore likely to do very well at their school? Will they accept your tuition dollars? Will they be willing to look beyond a decade-old academic crime (which they know is also being committed by a good chunk of their students)? I think the answer to these questions will be Yes. If that's not the case, you could try a less open approach with other schools.
I am a hardass on plagiarism, but you've paid for your crime. If it was me, I'd admit you. The horrendous results of what you did make it likely you will be scrupulously honest this time round.
Yeah, I agree with this. One thing you might do is take an extension class taught by a full time faculty member at the school who would be willing to write a letter of recommendation for you (be up front about your situation). And don't major in Creative Writing. But talk to Admissions first. |
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planetofregret
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« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2010, 12:12:47 AM » |
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This is good news -- I'm cautiously optimistic now (as opposed to despondent, so an improvement!). I called around a few schools in the area and am hoping to get in some meetings in the next few weeks. With any luck, one of them will be as reasonable as you have been and take a chance on me.
Thanks again -- it means a lot that people are willing to offer some sound advice to someone in my situation.
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