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« on: October 27, 2010, 11:58:40 PM » |
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I don't believe I've ever watched Fox News. I pretty much just watch CNBC and Bloomberg. Also since I'm a Cablevision customer, we no longer get FOX, an issue that doesn't seem like it will be resolved any time soon. But hey, I can get House on reruns.
Moving on, people on the fora routinely blame Fox news for all the ills of the world. I mean, maybe it is--since I don't watch it, I really don't know.
But I guess that's what's got me curious. How do you know that Fox news is causing world evil unless you're watching it, yourself?
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« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2010, 12:04:25 AM » |
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people on the fora routinely blame Fox news for all the ills of the world. Citation needed. It's an effect, not the cause. |
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« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2010, 12:09:49 AM » |
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Take your pick: http://chronicle.com/forums/index.php?action=search2And Larryc just blamed Fox news for the abhorrent remarks of an Arkansas school board member. This is what happens when Fox News and the Republican Party gin up hate towards gay people:
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« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2010, 12:22:55 AM » |
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Bite me, Embittered.
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« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2010, 12:27:42 AM » |
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Nothing would give me greater pleasure.
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prytania3
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« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2010, 12:28:53 AM » |
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I'm too old for you, you silly thing.
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« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2010, 12:31:10 AM » |
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Glenn Beck.
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« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2010, 12:34:39 AM » |
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Fox news is nothing if not interesting. If you read their website, many headlines are very much in the style of the crazy op-ed segments on the channel. However, the actual articles are (usually) well written and not at all as "extreme" as the headline would suggest.
I find Fox News as unwatchable as the op-ed programs on CNN and MSNBC. Although, Fox's rhetoric seems a little more insane: NPR an arm of a terrorist organization (or something along those lines) because they fired an employee for saying he's afraid when Muslims get on a plane? Or the "terrorist fist bump" of Michelle and Barack Obama during the campaign. If they laughed about it, that would be one thing - but they at least appear to take it seriously.
Anyway, I don't see what's to gain from cable TV "news" shows. There are blogs with people who know a lot more than any of the clowns on TV - or at least don't have to dumb it down for an audience.
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« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2010, 12:40:07 AM » |
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Glenn Beck.
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So you watch him? |
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« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2010, 01:10:22 AM » |
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Glenn Beck.
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So you watch him? I grew up in red state as a bleeding heart liberal, so I watched a fair bit of O'Reilly to try to keep pace with my conservative friends. Once Beck started a few years ago, I tried watching it, since that's who my most-conservative friends would reference. I found him excessively hyperbolic and misleading -- O'Reilly at least farmed out the crazy to his guests. I gave up on Beck pretty quickly, but I still keep track of his talking points whenever I expect to get sucked into a political debate back home. Judging from what I see on the news-comedy shows (which I realize only pulls the most extreme elements of his show, or Fox in general), Beck currently falls between rodeo clown and televangelist. My issue with Fox (which is not alone, but by far the most egregious and shameless about it) is the implication that whatever issue is being reported is no more complex than how it is reported. |
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« Reply #12 on: October 28, 2010, 08:11:06 AM » |
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But I guess that's what's got me curious. How do you know that Fox news is causing world evil unless you're watching it, yourself?
1) The Daily Show and The Colbert Report both show clips from Fox News. 2) I hear people in conversations state something ludicrous and back-up their opinion with "I saw it on Fox News" far more frequently than citing any other news source, including the fake news shows on Comedy Central and The Onion. 3) I read the meta-reports summarizing various news agencies' take on given topics. 4) I interact with K-12 students when I do things like judge speaking contests, general knowledge competitions, and science fairs that include an interview phase. Students who are bizarrely off-base with respect to facts far more often huffily state, "I saw it on Fox News", than, "I saw it on CNN", or, "I saw it on MSNBC", or cite any other source that leads me to believe that the student is the one who misinterpreted a properly reported news story. 5) Indeed, those students who cite Fox News then usually play the "You are just prejudiced against people like me who don't fit your liberal agenda" card. Since I'm unclear both how I have a liberal agenda (libertarian that I am who tends to be conservative on social issues) and what that has to do with the price of tea in China for things like scientific facts, I tend to conclude that Fox News has a stronger bias than the other televised news shows (all shows will have a bias if only in the choice of what to cover), especially since all the clips I've seen when I've directly gone to Fox News for a " The Daily Show has got to be making up this one" reality check were indeed not news, but opinions that bear no resemblance to the evidence in the basic news story that the other media outlets were reporting. |
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If you haven't got either the anatomical or metaphorical balls to post your own question on a pseudonymous internet forum, then academia is the wrong job for you.
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« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2010, 08:23:38 AM » |
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Fox lacks the dignity and gravitas of a McNeil Lehrer show or BBC News. They aim for the tabloid style infotainment model of TV news. Here are some clips from the foxnewsporn.com website: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHEXzlNHC8QWhen you visit the website you start looking over your shoulder since you think you are at a porn website. However, all the material comes straight from Fox. When they do a story on a controversial strip club, it is not enough for them to report the facts. They will show images from inside the business. There are bloggers who focus on monitoring them and they can better explain how they distort and sometimes fabricate news stories. That being said, they do have a few decent folks on their staff. O'Reilly is such a jerk and a bully he is actually funny to watch. Classic O'Reilly clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tJjNVVwRCY |
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« Reply #14 on: October 28, 2010, 10:44:19 AM » |
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I try to watch it. I want to get a range of perspectives, and I figure it will help me undrstand my fellow man if I watch what a lot of them watch.
Except I very rarely can do it. 15 minutes is my record. I started with Glen Beck, and I expected him to be terrible. I was genuinely surprised by how bad every other show I've tried to watch has been. The impression I have is that the presenters know their audience. The premises of arguments are things like "Obama is the most liberal president in history". That's taken as a given, and then some argument or other is made. I'm not one to interact with the TV, in general, but I yell and get really annoyed by the complete lack of logic or evidence.
Once I caught the tail end of an actual news segment - an overview of the days headlines, I think. It seemed far more reasonable; not much different than any of the other channels.
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