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inthesun
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« on: October 17, 2010, 06:25:18 AM »

I am having to submit a working paper to a conference soon and need some advice regarding how it differs from the normal conference paper. They mentioned less than 15 pages if it is a working paper and less than 20 pages if it is a conference papers, but nothing else.

Your kind help is very much appreciated.
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« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2010, 07:15:03 AM »

What discipline are you in?
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« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2010, 07:02:43 PM »

Yes, this is discipline specific. But I think that a working paper, in this context, is just a conference paper with a page limit. At the last meeting of my social science discipline, I think I had people submit half a book. I don't read past page 45. Sorry.

Thus, a working paper means, in my discipline, that one should actually strive for sound analysis and economy of exposition. That's what would make it different from a typical conference paper.
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« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2010, 10:40:25 PM »

In my field, a working paper might also be one for which data collection and/or analysis is not yet complete. In that case one would be submitting the introductory material, lit review, and method section, with a discussion of what the data is looking like so far and/or what the results are expected to show and/or why they will be significant.
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« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2010, 02:19:24 AM »

Thank you all for your replies. I'm in the social sciences.

One more question: Is it okay to publish a full paper later in a peer-reviewed journal after having a working paper out of it for a conference?
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« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2010, 04:16:46 AM »

In economics a "working paper" is what is known as a "preprint" in physics and it has no effect on publication possibilities in peer-reviewed journals. Neither would a paper presented at a conference prejudice publication. But in biology this doesn't seem to be the case at all. Journals like Nature embargo articles until the publication date and people don't want to publicly discuss articles that haven't been formally published. So this varies by discipline a lot. You should know the norms in your exact discipline. I'm interdisciplinary and so am aware of these differences when working with different people etc.
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« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2010, 12:08:48 PM »

I would check the websites of the journals that you would eventually be submitting to. Check for any wording about "authors must affirm that no version of the submitted paper has been published elsewhere or is available on a website" or something like that.
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« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2010, 12:04:19 AM »

I would check the websites of the journals that you would eventually be submitting to. Check for any wording about "authors must affirm that no version of the submitted paper has been published elsewhere or is available on a website" or something like that.

Wow--presenting at a conference and then making adjustments and submitting to a peer-reviewed journal is the "done thing" in my fields. One just adds in an acknowledgment saying something like "An earlier version of this paper was presented at the International Conference of Confused Interdisciplinary Scholars. The authors would like to express their deep appreciation for the helpful comments and questions offered by the attendees at that session."
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« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2010, 01:05:41 AM »

I would check the websites of the journals that you would eventually be submitting to. Check for any wording about "authors must affirm that no version of the submitted paper has been published elsewhere or is available on a website" or something like that.

Wow--presenting at a conference and then making adjustments and submitting to a peer-reviewed journal is the "done thing" in my fields. One just adds in an acknowledgment saying something like "An earlier version of this paper was presented at the International Conference of Confused Interdisciplinary Scholars. The authors would like to express their deep appreciation for the helpful comments and questions offered by the attendees at that session."

I don't think there is a problem with conference presentations in most fields  but there could be if it was in a published conference proceedings. One just needs to know the norms of ones field.
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« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2010, 01:52:40 PM »

Thank you all for replying to my question.

I'll certainly follow the advice of submitting a working paper for this conference and sending a paper to a journal that does not mind the paper is published elsewhere in a 'lesser' form.
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