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« on: July 30, 2010, 06:57:56 PM » |
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Even for adjuncts... Today I had to answer over 20 questions,speak with 3 faculty members, give a teaching demonstration of 15 minutes with real students..., bring ready syllabus and assignments, all this to get 1 semester teaching of 1 introductory course in the cc.
and...I did not get a job. They told that I had the best presentation from (12) candidates, but i did not watch the time (as may others) and I might have clarity issues because English is my second language...
I have already several other courses to teach, but...feel sad and disappointed..
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anna2404
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« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2010, 07:21:51 PM » |
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So what do you think? Does anyone else had similar experience in hiring? Any suggestions to address issues of clarity that they are...but they might be...
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polly_mer
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« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2010, 07:52:23 PM » |
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What field are you in?
What geographic location are you in?
How good a school did you apply for?
If you are in one of the high supply fields where everyone and the dog are applying for every opening so that a good school in a highly populated region gets dozens of adjunct applications, then yes, the bar is pretty high. However, out here in the hinterlands in fields with low overall supply, I have been offered adjunct positions teaching things in which I have zero graduate credits because I'm still better qualified with college-level teaching experience and a doctorate in a related field than the BS holders in the appropriate fields that are the other choices to put in the classroom.
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If you haven't got either the anatomical or metaphorical balls to post your own question on a pseudonymous internet forum, then academia is the wrong job for you.
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anna2404
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« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2010, 08:01:34 PM » |
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Polly_mer, thanks...
sigh..in social sciences
sigh..in a nice state with the very famous (in past) actor as a governor.
The school is not so good, i think, and they told me they keep me on file...i guess just to be nice...
I am wondering what are those fields with low supply...?
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polly_mer
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« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2010, 08:09:40 PM » |
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I am wondering what are those fields with low supply...?
Many people are not willing to teach remedial or even just introductory math and science (e.g., chemistry, physics, geology, biology), which are needed at most community colleges, especially those in the middle of nowhere. Some engineering specialties are also much closer to having about the right number of qualified people as job openings. |
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If you haven't got either the anatomical or metaphorical balls to post your own question on a pseudonymous internet forum, then academia is the wrong job for you.
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« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2010, 03:13:07 PM » |
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The feedback you got could be helpful. Practice your oral communication skills with someone whose English-language clarity is good, and practice staying on time during presentations. I would also suggest having someone with good written English-language skills look over your written materials (syllabus, assignments, etc.). As long as you have something to improve, it makes sense to work on that.
Things are tough in California, I hear. I'm sorry about that and hope things get better soon.
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educator1
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« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2010, 04:43:50 PM » |
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Anna,
If you have an advanced degree in one of the Social Sciences, chances are that you have a rather good statistics background. I have found that most schools are rather eager to find qualified individuals to teach the introductory courses in all of the social science departments.
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anna2404
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« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2010, 06:56:49 PM » |
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duchess_of_malfi , thank you- yes, someone always look to my written materials. I spoke only 12 minutes instead of 10, but yes, more practice won't hurt. Clarity, though can be an issue, they could be right. On the other hand, I teach my own classes for three years and no issues with clarity.
educator1- yes, i am good in stats, and they asked me whether i can teach statistics, i told i could, but they did not need the statistics teacher this time. And it was the introductory course I interviewed for...
i guess in my graduate studies state to find adjunct gig was very easy. On one other gig here I had to give five recommendation letters... but even this was not as bad as yesterday.....
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« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2010, 07:05:00 PM » |
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Everything is very unbalanced now. Most colleges are experiencing higher enrollments, which is common during recessions, but this is especially true at the value-oriented, lower-priced schools. At the same time, the state-funded public colleges are in such economic trouble that they have to offer fewer sections. What that means is more competition for jobs, including adjunct jobs. When a college has many excellent people to choose from, they have to find ways that help them feel that they are making a good decision. No one wants to admit that everyone in the final group is good and that the decision could be made by chance. So they add more and more questions for the applicants to answer, and they have to make their decisions on the basis of very small differences. Soon, we will probably hear about talent competitions in job interviews!
It just wasn't your lucky day this time. But I hope things things will be happy in your state very soon. Hang in there.
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gamera
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« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2010, 11:15:19 PM » |
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Hang in there. I've been hearing from other friends in your state that the situation (even for adjuncts right now) is very dire. My market (in GA) is different. We're still hungry (even starving?) for adjuncts here. Things will turn around in CA-- hopefully soon.
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lyndonparker
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« Reply #10 on: August 01, 2010, 09:27:53 AM » |
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While "fit" is always an issue, the economy is in horrible shape and there are many looking for work as adjuncts. In an urban area in California there is an excess of talent. Good luck, but if possible try to broaden your horizons to other areas of the country.
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Lyndon always has such a nice succinct way of putting things.
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anna2404
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« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2010, 09:59:19 AM » |
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Lyndonparker, thanks, unfortunately I can't...my spouse ass. prof. here and we have 6 years old, so...
gamera- yep, i wish i could go into any other state, this is just crazy here, I swear for what I did on that interview I might get a tenure in other place...
duchess_of_malfi - thanks, what you said is very helpful.
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« Reply #12 on: August 02, 2010, 05:27:06 PM » |
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I've also been told by some universities that they are giving priority for adjunct positions to graduates who have recently completed their doctorates at their school but are unable to find employment elsewhere. It's not helping my job prospects, but seems like a nice thing for them to do for their recent grads who are struggling in this terrible job market.
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anna2404
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« Reply #13 on: August 02, 2010, 05:39:59 PM » |
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Well, that's so true...with my graduate university too...yet they 5000 miles away... so...does not help me much...
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emerson5000
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« Reply #14 on: August 28, 2010, 12:59:17 PM » |
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Hello friends
nice post.
thanks
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