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« Reply #15 on: July 03, 2010, 06:18:05 PM »

Perhaps I will show a few of these to my class as examples of the Appeal to Emotion fallacy.
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« Reply #16 on: July 03, 2010, 06:21:54 PM »

Perhaps I will show a few of these to my class as examples of the Appeal to Emotion fallacy.

Show which? The videos, or our posts about them?
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« Reply #17 on: July 03, 2010, 07:52:56 PM »

Perhaps I will show a few of these to my class as examples of the Appeal to Emotion fallacy.

Show which? The videos, or our posts about them?

I plead the Fifth Amendment.  Seriously, I was going to show the ads.  But maybe not.
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« Reply #18 on: July 04, 2010, 07:41:27 AM »

Alternatively, maybe the simplest explanation is the best: the people sponsoring the ads want to encourage their audience to live a good life (as they define it) and appreciate others who do the same. Of course, that idea of a "good life" happens to reaffirm lots of consumerist, individualist, and - yes - heteronormative values that happen to serve the sponsors' political and economic interests.

This is the impression I get from the ads. I think the organization is truly interested in inspiring its audience to more consciously adopt in their daily lives the family-oriented, be-kind-to-your-neighbour, small-kindnesses-mean-a-lot values depicted in the ads.

Those values (all values) have a political component. That's inescapable. So, yes, there are likely connections between these ads and the more direct political statements made by the same people. But I'm not convinced that the ads are intended to be political statements in and of themselves.

But then, they don't have to be intentional to be political statements, do they?

And I tell you, they are frigging effective. I got crying after watching a couple of them, and just kept on going.


But that's true of plenty of other "feel good"-type ads for specific products (just think of MasterCard's "priceless" campaign, or all the jewelry store ads I hear on the radio). The direct effect is to get people thinking more about family, about romance, about values. An indirect effect is that some of them will then buy stuff that they wouldn't have thought of otherwise.

Most good advertising today works this way. Advertisers don't sell a product. They sell a feeling, or a lifestyle. I think the shift began around WWII. If you look at print ads from the 20s or 30s, they're little more than catalogues of the products' attributes: "This hat has x yards of lace"; "Our snake oil will cure the following list of ailments". Lots and lots and lots of text. Maybe one picture, and that picture was of the product itself.

By the time the US joined the Second World War, ads were beginning to be more emotionally-based, especially for food and clothing, and especially in magazines and department store catalogues. The change in fashion really helped here, too. It was easy to associate particular purchases with the war effort, when the products themselves were reflective of war.

In the 50s, most advertisers were consciously making the link between lifestyle and product. They really upped their game here. I find this period really interesting, because it's when we see the forerunner to the type of advertising we have today, where the primary aim of the ad is to sell a need or a feeling, rather than a product. Once the audience buys into the need or recognizes the feeling, the product sells itself. And the ambitious overhaul of American society fit nicely into that kind of advertising plan. If you look at ads from this period (and most of them were directed at women, who were supposed to be the ones doing the shopping while the husbands were off at work), there's much less text than before the war, and the pictures feature people doing stuff, with the product in the background. What's being sold is the lifestyle that comes with the product, not the product itself.


Thinking about that makes me wonder... If I were in advertising and had a really big budget to work, one interesting strategy would be pairing up two seemingly separate campaigns: one warm and fuzzy and totally unaffiliated with any specific product, and the other a more traditional product promotion bit. Then match up the ads: have the explicitly commercial billboards appear just down the way from the warm and fuzzy ones. Have the broadcast ads run sequentially, or during the same commercial breaks. The warm and fuzzy ad gets you thinking about family and love and so forth, and then the jewelry store ad reminds you that you've got an anniversary coming up and can do something to express those warm and fuzzy thoughts.

I don't think it's necessary to lay the groundwork. Why do that, when you can just pull a thread from a set of symbols that already have cultural currency? This is what most advertisers currently do. The trick is to associate the product so closely with particular values that the product becomes part of the symbolic structure that denotes those values. Only a handful of products get there. The rest just hook their wagon to the moving train.

Teddy bears are associated with childhood innocence. There's no need to run a set of ads reaffirming the symbolism of teddy bears before incorporating that symbolism into your ads. The symbol is already strong enough to stand on its own. All you have to do is show a kid dragging a teddy bear, and bam! you've got innocence. If a particular brand gets to become teddy bears (like how Kleenex has become tissues), then they've got gold. But you don't have to be the teddy bear to make use of teddy bear symbolism.

Ad placement is already a big deal. Ad agencies hire people specifically to figure out which tv programs and billboards are best for particular types of products, and which other products will be sold alongside their own, so the context is already present. And most magazines are little more than catalogues of products themselves. It's not by chance that an article in Cosmo about the best fashion finds under $50 feature actual products. The companies have sent the magazine samples, and very likely have contracted to buy ads. That's why they're featured. There's no need for the companies themselves to create the milieu in which they'll be sold. The media do that for them.

Oh, advertising is insidious stuff, I tell you. It's culture, branded and photographed and ready for consumption. I get a kick from people who tell me that they're immune to it. Ha!
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« Reply #19 on: July 04, 2010, 07:43:41 AM »

I'm immune to advertising.

For some strange reason, though, I could really go for some pie right about now....
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« Reply #20 on: July 04, 2010, 08:03:57 AM »

Those billboards always creeped me out - I suspected they had a state or a religious backer but as they persisted for years I got more used to them.  How... strange!
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« Reply #21 on: July 04, 2010, 08:10:14 AM »

Teddy bears are associated with childhood innocence. There's no need to run a set of ads reaffirming the symbolism of teddy bears before incorporating that symbolism into your ads. The symbol is already strong enough to stand on its own. All you have to do is show a kid dragging a teddy bear, and bam! you've got innocence. If a particular brand gets to become teddy bears (like how Kleenex has become tissues), then they've got gold. But you don't have to be the teddy bear to make use of teddy bear symbolism.

Ad placement is already a big deal. Ad agencies hire people specifically to figure out which tv programs and billboards are best for particular types of products, and which other products will be sold alongside their own, so the context is already present. And most magazines are little more than catalogues of products themselves. It's not by chance that an article in Cosmo about the best fashion finds under $50 feature actual products. The companies have sent the magazine samples, and very likely have contracted to buy ads. That's why they're featured. There's no need for the companies themselves to create the milieu in which they'll be sold. The media do that for them.

Oh, advertising is insidious stuff, I tell you. It's culture, branded and photographed and ready for consumption. I get a kick from people who tell me that they're immune to it. Ha!

I can't comment on the ads that started this thread as I've never seen them, but I agree with this. A single image on a billboard can evoke emotion in the people seeing it even if it is just a brief glance while walking or driving by because you connect the image either to a personal situation or one which is commonly known. The billboards strategically placed at an intersection at the end of my street always have such images on them, for example a billboard 'advertising' organ donation had a picture of a closeup of a man's eyes and a caption saying "Save Dave -- Yes/No?", which is effective because it is very hard to look someone in the eye and say 'no, I won't save you'. It makes it personal. During the recent election, one of the Parties had billboards all over the place with images of everyday life situations with everyday people saying "I've never voted X before, but...". I didn't vote for the Party, but I think having the positive imagery coupled with people giving reasons why they were changing their vote was extremely effective in demonstrating the policies of the Party and making them accessible to everyone; in fact, through these billboards I got more information about the policies of that Party than I had about the policies of the one I am affiliated with, which are not made as accessible as they really could be. None of these ads have anything running up to the symbolism they are using, they just effectively incorporate widely experienced situations and emotion into their ads and use those to appeal to the emotions of society.

Conjugate is right with this being an example of argumentum ad populam, however the companies are well aware of how effective this is, and there is actually nothing stopping them in exploiting the effects of logical fallacy. You can write something off as argumentum ad populam as much as you like, but the fact is, the ad has still had an impact on you whether the 'argument' it is presented in contains a fallacy or not.

Also, annoying ads are the ones that are the most effective, I think; people talk about those. There are two threads here now in which forumites are discussing the ads that they hate, which means the ad has worked. It is annoying, but it is memorable, people remember the product the ad is associated with and they talk about that product -- successful advertising. I know I'm more likely to remember the specific brand advertised in an ad I hate than one that I am ambivalent towards, and people don't talk about ads that they like as much as ones they hate; I think on the whole people are inherently inclined to discuss things that annoy over things that don't.
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« Reply #22 on: July 04, 2010, 08:27:15 AM »

I bet a lot of people my age still have some lingering weak environmental consciousness that goes back to that ad with the old Native American man with the tear trickling down his cheek that was running a lot in the 70s. My adult self could give you a whole sophisticated racial critique now, but it was pretty damn effective.

The heteronormativity ads? They make me want to undergo a sex change and go spend the next five years living as a Castro clone. Seriously.
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« Reply #23 on: July 07, 2010, 04:34:50 PM »

I had never seen any of these ads or billboards.

And then today, I looked out my office window. There is a billboard nearby that usually had some ad or other. I stare at this billboard quite a bit when I am stuck on something or other and I am gazing out the window.

I don't know when they changed it but now it has a picture of an old dude with "Donated $100,000 in tips to help kids. Charity. Pass it on. Values.com" written on it. I'll try not to be brainwashed as I daydream by looking out the window...
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« Reply #24 on: July 07, 2010, 05:25:11 PM »

The values.com website has a very interesting "Values on Campus" section. Lots of helpful hints on how to spread the word, including through class assignments.

This really is masterfully done. I especially like the "sort by value" pull-down list in the Create Your Own Inspirational Billboard area.
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« Reply #25 on: July 07, 2010, 05:27:05 PM »

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I don't know when they changed it but now it has a picture of an old dude with "Donated $100,000 in tips to help kids. Charity. Pass it on. Values.com" written on it. I'll try not to be brainwashed as I daydream by looking out the window...

What, you don't believe in charity or helping others?

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« Reply #26 on: July 07, 2010, 05:29:26 PM »

Three jobs?  Uniquely American, idn't it?
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« Reply #27 on: July 07, 2010, 06:05:13 PM »

Three jobs?  Uniquely American, idn't it?

I can see how she could have three jobs.  I can see how she might have her own place.  I don't see how she can have a devoted mother to her son.  I see how she could be a devoted mother, but I'm not sure how she could have a devoted mother.  Do you suppose she got one from eBay?  Craigslist?

Aah, Internet; is there nothing you can't do?

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« Reply #28 on: July 07, 2010, 06:08:31 PM »

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I don't know when they changed it but now it has a picture of an old dude with "Donated $100,000 in tips to help kids. Charity. Pass it on. Values.com" written on it. I'll try not to be brainwashed as I daydream by looking out the window...

What, you don't believe in charity or helping others?

;-)

Personally I just don't believe in helping kids. If I donate $100,000 it will be to save the orphaned water buffalo.
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« Reply #29 on: July 07, 2010, 06:14:26 PM »

Three jobs?  Uniquely American, idn't it?

I can see how she could have three jobs.  I can see how she might have her own place.  I don't see how she can have a devoted mother to her son.  I see how she could be a devoted mother, but I'm not sure how she could have a devoted mother.  Do you suppose she got one from eBay?  Craigslist?

Aah, Internet; is there nothing you can't do?



I just really don't understand what's so great about what sounds like a miserable, hellish existence.
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