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« Reply #45 on: May 10, 2010, 02:16:31 PM »

I agree that this disability is one that is not taken seriously. I have a severe, life-threatening allergy to a common food, which is often "hidden" in restaurant foods. Needless to say, I do not partake of conference food. Paramedics, ambulances, and trips to the ER if the epi-pen doesn't work would tend to ruin your conference. I prefer conferences in which lunch is "on your own" so that I do not have to pay for food I cannot eat.
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« Reply #46 on: May 10, 2010, 09:55:25 PM »

To the OP:  get used to it.  Or don't go.

I say this as someone who always has food of my own selection within reach.
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« Reply #47 on: May 12, 2010, 10:58:54 AM »

I agree that this disability is one that is not taken seriously.

I think part of the reason that very real and extremely dangerous food allergies are not taken seriously is that so many people claim food allergies when really they just don't like something or have a mild intolerance to it. (I don't get the sense that anyone who has posted on this thread is doing that- but many people do). I recently overheard an individual bragging about how they are able to get special treatment in restaurants by claiming a food allergy they do not have. If I had a real food allergy (and I fortunately do not) I would be chapped off by some jerk crying wolf. Its like all those hypochondriacs who claim various obscure ailments making it much harder for the rare legit cases of fibromyalgia, etc. to be really taken seriously. 
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« Reply #48 on: May 12, 2010, 11:19:57 AM »

I agree that this disability is one that is not taken seriously.

I think part of the reason that very real and extremely dangerous food allergies are not taken seriously is that so many people claim food allergies when really they just don't like something or have a mild intolerance to it. (I don't get the sense that anyone who has posted on this thread is doing that- but many people do). I recently overheard an individual bragging about how they are able to get special treatment in restaurants by claiming a food allergy they do not have. If I had a real food allergy (and I fortunately do not) I would be chapped off by some jerk crying wolf. Its like all those hypochondriacs who claim various obscure ailments making it much harder for the rare legit cases of fibromyalgia, etc. to be really taken seriously. 

If you have a real life-threatening food allergy, chances are you don't go out to eat very often. Not worth risking your life.
Also, why does it seem that people with food allergies (life-threatening and otherwise) do not take preventive meds? I say this as someone with other life-threatening allergies who is grateful that such meds now exist.
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« Reply #49 on: May 12, 2010, 11:33:10 AM »

Building on what canadatoursimguy said earlier, as a result of this thread I discussed with someone in our Conference Office the costs of permitting people not eating conference food to pay a lower conference fee. He showed me some modeling done by the Office that demonstrates - at least for the conferences run here - that allowing people to opt in or out of a food package increases the cost to everyone, including those who choose to opt out of the food package. The differential costs arise from the additional administration time taken up in dealing with opt-ins/opt-outs and from having in place systems to ensure that those who pay get food and those who do not pay do not (while everyone posting here is doubtless very honest, he has experience of conferences in which they found non-payers were taking food). So while intuitively lower fees seem to make sense, in reality everyone would end up paying more. I looked at the assumptions underlying the model and they seemed very reasonable. 
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« Reply #50 on: May 14, 2010, 02:29:20 PM »

I think part of the reason that very real and extremely dangerous food allergies are not taken seriously is that so many people claim food allergies when really they just don't like something or have a mild intolerance to it.

I was at a conference luncheon recently at which two people at my table decided they didn't like the (rather tasty) salmon entree and requested--no, demanded--a vegetarian dish.  (Context: If they'd been truly vegetarian, they'd have received little "coupons" in their registration packets that they could then place on or near their plates in an effort to help the servers understand that they needed the vegetarian option.)

The upshot: Not only did these two overly entitled people speak nastily to the servers when the servers questioned where their coupons were, and lied about having "lost them," but they also complained vociferously when their spur-of-the-moment decision to "go vegetarian" meant that they received their (piping hot) meal 20 minutes later than the rest of us.

When they were criticized for their behavior by someone with an even more biting wit than I normally employ in a professional setting, they continued to act like entitled snowflakes, insisting that "the customer is always right" and "the servers should have been able to bring us a vegetarian meal immediately."  They only shut up when the sardonic critiquer casually said something that meant this: "Y'know, I've met your boss, and after this meal I'm going over to talk with [hu] about [unrelated topic] . . . ."

I'm fine with accommodating food allergies, dietary customs, religious restrictions, and the like.  In fact, as an organizer of several conferences with 250-plus attendees, I'm used to making those accommodations and thinking sensitively about other people's health.  [Thanks for helping me understand what "celiac" means, earlier posters to this thread!]

But this kind of behavior can influence how people receive a statement of a genuine food issue.
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« Reply #51 on: May 15, 2010, 11:33:23 AM »

The upshot: Not only did these two overly entitled people speak nastily to the servers when the servers questioned where their coupons were, and lied about having "lost them," but they also complained vociferously when their spur-of-the-moment decision to "go vegetarian" meant that they received their (piping hot) meal 20 minutes later than the rest of us.

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I'm fine with accommodating food allergies, dietary customs, religious restrictions, and the like.  In fact, as an organizer of several conferences with 250-plus attendees, I'm used to making those accommodations and thinking sensitively about other people's health.  [Thanks for helping me understand what "celiac" means, earlier posters to this thread!]

But this kind of behavior can influence how people receive a statement of a genuine food issue.

Just to point out that if they were truly rude, I have worked in enough kitchens to know that their 'special' meal came with a 'special' surprise.

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