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[embitteredhistorian]

I am beginning to wonder if Oklahoma is now the place that the fora has declared as the deepest pit of hell just to make all of us who live everywhere else feel better about ourselves (even if underemployed/unemployed or living in North Dakota).  Let me be the first to congratulate you on landing a gig, OP.

I would take Oklahoma over a whole lot of places, myself. Especially Tulsa, being a city person...which was my earlier point. Eastern NC, anyone? Western Maryland? Most of Wyoming? Either of the Dakotas? Southern Illinois? Cleveland? Northern Nevada? Southern New Mexico? I could think of more...

I'm sure all of these places have their charms.

Well, Fargo is kind of cool, and Rapid City isn't too bad.  And I've not heard to many people complain about, say, Wilmington, NC.  Have you been to Reno?  It's beautiful.

The other places, not so much, though NM State would probably be OK.

This from the person who trashed the bejeezus out of Tulsa and environs. Eastern NC, ok other than Wilmington or the Outer Banks (Fayetteville, Elizabeth City, et. al.)? Fargo? Rapid City?

o k .....

I think this thread should be renamed "the great place debate"--though that isn't very creative. Could this go 1600 pages?

Have you been to Fargo?  It's got more funky coolness than the entire state of Oklahoma.  Which isn't much, but still.

Rapid City isn't exactly Boston, but it's beautiful, which Tulsa is decidedly not.  Plus you get to breathe actual air rather than refinery fumes.

I can't believe I'm about to praise Oklahoma. I do hope Lucifer has mittens.

One of the funkiest people I've met lives in Oklahoma City, and Oklahoma is also home to the Flaming Hips, who are about as funky as one gets without having the name "George Clinton". Granted, Fargo has a funky movie named after it (although doesn't most of it take place in Minnesota?).

[aandsdean]

I am beginning to wonder if Oklahoma is now the place that the fora has declared as the deepest pit of hell just to make all of us who live everywhere else feel better about ourselves (even if underemployed/unemployed or living in North Dakota).  Let me be the first to congratulate you on landing a gig, OP.

I would take Oklahoma over a whole lot of places, myself. Especially Tulsa, being a city person...which was my earlier point. Eastern NC, anyone? Western Maryland? Most of Wyoming? Either of the Dakotas? Southern Illinois? Cleveland? Northern Nevada? Southern New Mexico? I could think of more...

I'm sure all of these places have their charms.

Well, Fargo is kind of cool, and Rapid City isn't too bad.  And I've not heard to many people complain about, say, Wilmington, NC.  Have you been to Reno?  It's beautiful.

The other places, not so much, though NM State would probably be OK.

This from the person who trashed the bejeezus out of Tulsa and environs. Eastern NC, ok other than Wilmington or the Outer Banks (Fayetteville, Elizabeth City, et. al.)? Fargo? Rapid City?

o k .....

I think this thread should be renamed "the great place debate"--though that isn't very creative. Could this go 1600 pages?

Have you been to Fargo?  It's got more funky coolness than the entire state of Oklahoma.  Which isn't much, but still.

Rapid City isn't exactly Boston, but it's beautiful, which Tulsa is decidedly not.  Plus you get to breathe actual air rather than refinery fumes.

I can't believe I'm about to praise Oklahoma. I do hope Lucifer has mittens.

One of the funkiest people I've met lives in Oklahoma City, and Oklahoma is also home to the Flaming Hips, who are about as funky as one gets without having the name "George Clinton". Granted, Fargo has a funky movie named after it (although doesn't most of it take place in Minnesota?).

It's The Flaming Lips.  They have a small street named after them in Bricktown.

[embitteredhistorian]

If that wasn't a Freudian slip, I don't know what is.

[dr_alcott]

I am beginning to wonder if Oklahoma is now the place that the fora has declared as the deepest pit of hell just to make all of us who live everywhere else feel better about ourselves (even if underemployed/unemployed or living in North Dakota).  Let me be the first to congratulate you on landing a gig, OP.

I would take Oklahoma over a whole lot of places, myself. Especially Tulsa, being a city person...which was my earlier point. Eastern NC, anyone? Western Maryland? Most of Wyoming? Either of the Dakotas? Southern Illinois? Cleveland? Northern Nevada? Southern New Mexico? I could think of more...

I'm sure all of these places have their charms.

Well, Fargo is kind of cool, and Rapid City isn't too bad.  And I've not heard to many people complain about, say, Wilmington, NC.  Have you been to Reno?  It's beautiful.

The other places, not so much, though NM State would probably be OK.

This from the person who trashed the bejeezus out of Tulsa and environs. Eastern NC, ok other than Wilmington or the Outer Banks (Fayetteville, Elizabeth City, et. al.)? Fargo? Rapid City?

o k .....

I think this thread should be renamed "the great place debate"--though that isn't very creative. Could this go 1600 pages?

Have you been to Fargo?  It's got more funky coolness than the entire state of Oklahoma.  Which isn't much, but still.

Rapid City isn't exactly Boston, but it's beautiful, which Tulsa is decidedly not.  Plus you get to breathe actual air rather than refinery fumes.

I can't believe I'm about to praise Oklahoma. I do hope Lucifer has mittens.

One of the funkiest people I've met lives in Oklahoma City, and Oklahoma is also home to the Flaming Hips, who are about as funky as one gets without having the name "George Clinton". Granted, Fargo has a funky movie named after it (although doesn't most of it take place in Minnesota?).

Yes, most of the movie takes place in Minnesota, some of it "up Brainerd" and some in the Twin Cities. Fargo is simply the place where Jerry Lundegaard arranged the kidnapping of his wife.

[sugaree]

I am beginning to wonder if Oklahoma is now the place that the fora has declared as the deepest pit of hell just to make all of us who live everywhere else feel better about ourselves (even if underemployed/unemployed or living in North Dakota).  Let me be the first to congratulate you on landing a gig, OP.

I would take Oklahoma over a whole lot of places, myself. Especially Tulsa, being a city person...which was my earlier point. Eastern NC, anyone? Western Maryland? Most of Wyoming? Either of the Dakotas? Southern Illinois? Cleveland? Northern Nevada? Southern New Mexico? I could think of more...

I'm sure all of these places have their charms.

Well, Fargo is kind of cool, and Rapid City isn't too bad.  And I've not heard to many people complain about, say, Wilmington, NC.  Have you been to Reno?  It's beautiful.

The other places, not so much, though NM State would probably be OK.

This from the person who trashed the bejeezus out of Tulsa and environs. Eastern NC, ok other than Wilmington or the Outer Banks (Fayetteville, Elizabeth City, et. al.)? Fargo? Rapid City?

o k .....

I think this thread should be renamed "the great place debate"--though that isn't very creative. Could this go 1600 pages?

Have you been to Fargo?  It's got more funky coolness than the entire state of Oklahoma.  Which isn't much, but still.

Rapid City isn't exactly Boston, but it's beautiful, which Tulsa is decidedly not.  Plus you get to breathe actual air rather than refinery fumes.

I can't believe I'm about to praise Oklahoma. I do hope Lucifer has mittens.

One of the funkiest people I've met lives in Oklahoma City, and Oklahoma is also home to the Flaming Hips, who are about as funky as one gets without having the name "George Clinton". Granted, Fargo has a funky movie named after it (although doesn't most of it take place in Minnesota?).

Yes, most of the movie takes place in Minnesota, some of it "up Brainerd" and some in the Twin Cities. Fargo is simply the place where Jerry Lundegaard arranged the kidnapping of his wife.

Great, now I'm going to have the accents and dialogue from this film running through my head all day. "Go Bears!"

[dr_alcott]

I am beginning to wonder if Oklahoma is now the place that the fora has declared as the deepest pit of hell just to make all of us who live everywhere else feel better about ourselves (even if underemployed/unemployed or living in North Dakota).  Let me be the first to congratulate you on landing a gig, OP.

I would take Oklahoma over a whole lot of places, myself. Especially Tulsa, being a city person...which was my earlier point. Eastern NC, anyone? Western Maryland? Most of Wyoming? Either of the Dakotas? Southern Illinois? Cleveland? Northern Nevada? Southern New Mexico? I could think of more...

I'm sure all of these places have their charms.

Well, Fargo is kind of cool, and Rapid City isn't too bad.  And I've not heard to many people complain about, say, Wilmington, NC.  Have you been to Reno?  It's beautiful.

The other places, not so much, though NM State would probably be OK.

This from the person who trashed the bejeezus out of Tulsa and environs. Eastern NC, ok other than Wilmington or the Outer Banks (Fayetteville, Elizabeth City, et. al.)? Fargo? Rapid City?

o k .....

I think this thread should be renamed "the great place debate"--though that isn't very creative. Could this go 1600 pages?

Have you been to Fargo?  It's got more funky coolness than the entire state of Oklahoma.  Which isn't much, but still.

Rapid City isn't exactly Boston, but it's beautiful, which Tulsa is decidedly not.  Plus you get to breathe actual air rather than refinery fumes.

I can't believe I'm about to praise Oklahoma. I do hope Lucifer has mittens.

One of the funkiest people I've met lives in Oklahoma City, and Oklahoma is also home to the Flaming Hips, who are about as funky as one gets without having the name "George Clinton". Granted, Fargo has a funky movie named after it (although doesn't most of it take place in Minnesota?).

Yes, most of the movie takes place in Minnesota, some of it "up Brainerd" and some in the Twin Cities. Fargo is simply the place where Jerry Lundegaard arranged the kidnapping of his wife.

Great, now I'm going to have the accents and dialogue from this film running through my head all day. "Go Bears!"

Don't you mean "Go Vikes?"

[thurston]

Great, now I'm going to have the accents and dialogue from this film running through my head all day. "Go Bears!"

Don't you mean "Go Vikes?"

Geez. Remarkable lack of familiarity with pretty basic pop cultural info. I mean, I know we're academics and all, and most of us are not paying attention to that stuff, but still..."Go Vikes"?? "The Flaming HIPS"???? Day-um!!!

Just give up now, you two. The pop culture trivia toy is hereby taken away until you've learned how to properly play with it. :)

[sugaree]

Check your own pop culture references, kiddos. I was actually quoting from the movie itself. When the lake bar prostitutes are being interviewed by Marge Gunderson, one identifies herself as having gone to high school in White Bear Lake and follows this with (the appropriately accented), "Go Bears!"

Check yourselves people - I would get neither a pop culture reference, and certainly NOT an NFL reference incorrect. So there!

p.s. thurston (and/or any other comers), I'll take you on in a pop culture challenge any day. And I'll win. ;)

[thurston]

Check your own pop culture references, kiddos. I was actually quoting from the movie itself. When the lake bar prostitutes are being interviewed by Marge Gunderson, one identifies herself as having gone to high school in White Bear Lake and follows this with (the appropriately accented), "Go Bears!"

Check yourselves people - I would get neither a pop culture reference, and certainly NOT an NFL reference incorrect. So there!

p.s. thurston (and/or any other comers), I'll take you on in a pop culture challenge any day. And I'll win. ;)

I was siding with you, Sugaree.

[sugaree]

Check your own pop culture references, kiddos. I was actually quoting from the movie itself. When the lake bar prostitutes are being interviewed by Marge Gunderson, one identifies herself as having gone to high school in White Bear Lake and follows this with (the appropriately accented), "Go Bears!"

Check yourselves people - I would get neither a pop culture reference, and certainly NOT an NFL reference incorrect. So there!

p.s. thurston (and/or any other comers), I'll take you on in a pop culture challenge any day. And I'll win. ;)

I was siding with you, Sugaree.

Oops - my bad. Does this mean I get to keep my pop culture trivia toy?

[dr_alcott]

Check your own pop culture references, kiddos. I was actually quoting from the movie itself. When the lake bar prostitutes are being interviewed by Marge Gunderson, one identifies herself as having gone to high school in White Bear Lake and follows this with (the appropriately accented), "Go Bears!"

Check yourselves people - I would get neither a pop culture reference, and certainly NOT an NFL reference incorrect. So there!

Sugaree, I hang my head in shame and deference to your excellent knowledge of Fargo. That's one of my favorite scenes, too. Clearly I need to watch the movie again. Hmmm . . . I see some Margie in my near future . . .

[thurston]

Oops - my bad. Does this mean I get to keep my pop culture trivia toy?

By all means, my friend.