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Heather Munro Prescott
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« on: March 08, 2010, 06:00:20 PM »

I've been waiting for the Chronicle to report on this (learned about it by reading University Diaries). 

http://chalkboard.blogs.gainesville.com/2010/03/uf-students-protest-shooting-make-demands/


It seems to me the campus police don't know how to deal with persons with mental health problems.  Thoughts?
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« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2010, 10:58:51 PM »

Heather, I have a couple of questions about your purposes in posting this, and also want to provide you with a bit of background information. This area within the Fora was created to provide a safe space for Forumites to discuss chronic issues that we face and/or that have an impact upon our students. Although this is, of course, a publicly available space, this area has typically been a far more nurturing and safe space than many others within the Chronicle Forums.

Given your professional background and your involvement here so far, which have often related to your journalistic interests, this thread seems a bit intrusive to me for this space. If what you are hoping for is to solicit comments that you can use in thinking about and working on future writing, I would like to suggest that you ask the Mods to move this to another area. At the same time, I know that you, personally, have also faced your own health issues. If you are posting this from a personal perspective, I think some additional background to this post might be helpful to anyone who might be interested in a conversation on the issues, but who does not wish to contribute to your background work for a future professional publication.
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« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2010, 07:33:24 AM »

I understand your concerns.  My intent was not to get comments for my writing but to get thoughts on what this incident says about resources for faculty (including graduate instructors).  You're right.  I could have framed this better. If you think it doesn't belong here than by all means delete it or move it.
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« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2010, 03:23:24 PM »

I understand your concerns.  My intent was not to get comments for my writing but to get thoughts on what this incident says about resources for faculty (including graduate instructors).  You're right.  I could have framed this better. If you think it doesn't belong here than by all means delete it or move it.

Thanks for the clarification. Since the intent of this area is to talk about our health issues and those of our students and how we juggle them, there are certainly some things that resonate for me in this story with regard to doing my job. There's another thread right now over in the Classroom forum about a student behaving inappropriately and aggressively, and the ways that universities seem poorly equipped to deal with them. I,too, have seen over and over that many or most systems are not able to deal with individuals with mental illness. It's not just campus police, either--there was a case just last year when the NYC police tasered an individual who was mentally ill, and he fell off the roof of a building to his death.

Part of the problem seems to be the difficulty sorting out to what degree an individual is entitled to protection under the law from discrimination based upon disabilities, versus the rights of other individuals (faculty, classmates, community members) to be protected from illegal behavior that is triggered by mental illness. the standard for what constitutes "menacing" behavior and "harrassment," for example, is pretty random and applied very inconsistently. As a faculty member, this means that I am asked to manage an anxiety-provoking and anti-educational dynamic within my classroom while the assorted authorities figure out what they can do legally. Not fun for anyone involved--including the person struggling to make his/her way through the system while wrestling with a significant disability.
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