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...And double worse when you allow the cheating student pass with a C, instead of giving him an F altogether, and he complains about not getting a B.
OMG, I am currently going through a similar situation. Last term, I had a very active student who made a lot of contributions in class--but she averaged a B on her exams and papers. So, using "class participation" as an excuse, I bumped her up to an A-minus... ...and guess what, she has been complaining for the last 3 months. She knows what she got on the exams/papers, but she is somehow convinced that I am being unfair and that she deserves an A. So, she has contacted the Dean, the Provost, and even the Board of Trustees, saying all sorts of things. Of course, as much as I hate my admins, they have been pretty good about referring these cases to the proper office without getting involved (we have an academic appeals office). No good deed goes unpunished. Also, if there is one datum these threads have established beyond all anecdotal doubt, it's that A-'s provoke more grade protests and general whining than all other letters combined. I almost never bump anything to an A- anymore, for any reason, precisely because of this. |
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« Reply #31 on: February 11, 2010, 12:20:43 AM » |
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...And double worse when you allow the cheating student pass with a C, instead of giving him an F altogether, and he complains about not getting a B.
OMG, I am currently going through a similar situation. Last term, I had a very active student who made a lot of contributions in class--but she averaged a B on her exams and papers. So, using "class participation" as an excuse, I bumped her up to an A-minus... ...and guess what, she has been complaining for the last 3 months. She knows what she got on the exams/papers, but she is somehow convinced that I am being unfair and that she deserves an A. So, she has contacted the Dean, the Provost, and even the Board of Trustees, saying all sorts of things. Of course, as much as I hate my admins, they have been pretty good about referring these cases to the proper office without getting involved (we have an academic appeals office). No good deed goes unpunished. Oops, so sorry, I calculated the math incorrectly. You grade should have been and will be changed to a B. |
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« Reply #32 on: February 11, 2010, 02:54:46 PM » |
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...And double worse when you allow the cheating student pass with a C, instead of giving him an F altogether, and he complains about not getting a B.
OMG, I am currently going through a similar situation. Last term, I had a very active student who made a lot of contributions in class--but she averaged a B on her exams and papers. So, using "class participation" as an excuse, I bumped her up to an A-minus... ...and guess what, she has been complaining for the last 3 months. She knows what she got on the exams/papers, but she is somehow convinced that I am being unfair and that she deserves an A. So, she has contacted the Dean, the Provost, and even the Board of Trustees, saying all sorts of things. Of course, as much as I hate my admins, they have been pretty good about referring these cases to the proper office without getting involved (we have an academic appeals office). No good deed goes unpunished. Oops, so sorry, I calculated the math incorrectly. You grade should have been and will be changed to a B. And thank you so much for bringing this to my attention. |
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« Reply #33 on: February 12, 2010, 12:07:24 PM » |
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A final addendum to my initial post. Student who complained by email naturally did not show up for office hours today. So far, O for 6.
Finally, I agree with some of the other posters. Almost every time I've been generous in grades with students, it's come back to haunt me.
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« Reply #34 on: February 12, 2010, 02:28:46 PM » |
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A final addendum to my initial post. Student who complained by email naturally did not show up for office hours today. So far, O for 6.
See, I'd call this "6 for 6" - you've won each round. No wonder we were confused. |
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« Reply #35 on: February 13, 2010, 12:50:18 AM » |
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My first semester as a teacher, I gave back grades at the start of class. My reasoning was that as a student, I couldn't concentrate on the classes when I had a grade outstanding. So, to help my own students (who I viewed as adults), I gave them back ASAP.
As you can probably predict, I ended up spending 1/3 of the class "defending" the grades. Students started petitioning me, fighting with me during class, and the whole thing got really nasty. I vowed to NEVER do that again. To this end, students in my classes don't even get grades at all during classtime. They go Online and get their grades some other time during the week.
I also don't have the A-, A issue. I only give solid letters (A, B, C, D, F) no minuses and pluses. My university lets me choose, and it is really a lot easier on me to do it this way.
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« Reply #36 on: February 13, 2010, 12:58:09 AM » |
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A final addendum to my initial post. Student who complained by email naturally did not show up for office hours today. So far, O for 6.
See, I'd call this "6 for 6" - you've won each round. No wonder we were confused. That's what I'd call it, too. And your moniker wants me to think you are batting 1.000 rather than pitching a no-hitter. |
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« Reply #37 on: February 13, 2010, 08:46:35 AM » |
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I would tend to agree with your assessment of my "batting average," but for some reason I also feel a sense of frustration. I want to explain to the students why they did not do so well as expected. But then these may be snowflakes just whining for the heck of it...
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« Reply #38 on: February 13, 2010, 10:22:42 AM » |
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Snowflakes melt away at the first sign of heat, MM. Your explanations would be too hot for them to handle.
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