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elder_pr
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« on: January 31, 2010, 03:12:23 AM »

I am currently working as an Asst. Professor for a top 10 Korean university and am considering starting a PhD program here. I have both a BA and MA from US universities, am a natural born US citizen, and a native speaker. If I were to do my PhD here in Seoul, at a top ranked university (national as well as international ranking, such as Seoul National University) can I return to the US and teach in universities? Would my PhD hold as much weight as an American based PhD in the eyes of the US university system?
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« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2010, 05:09:24 AM »

It almost certainly wouldn't.  But it depends on what the alternative in the US is, more specifically.  A PhD from SNU would likely take you further than a PhD from Mediocre Flyover Univ.  Depends on discipline as well.
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« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2010, 08:12:26 AM »

The discipline would be in Communications and Culture. So, although SNU is ranked equally with institutions like University of Texas-Austin, it would be more beneficial to earn my PhD at UTA than SNU?
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« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2010, 09:09:40 AM »

The discipline would be in Communications and Culture. So, although SNU is ranked equally with institutions like University of Texas-Austin, it would be more beneficial to earn my PhD at UTA than SNU?

UT-Austin and SNU might be ranked similarly as universities, depending on the list you consult, but UT-Austin's Radio-TV-Film PhD (to which I'm guessing you might be referring) is very well known and respected, while SNU's PhD in communication and culture is unknown. The degree from UT will get you much, much further at U.S. universities.
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« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2010, 02:55:57 PM »

If you want to teach in the U.S. go to an American school.  It's the best bet.
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« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2010, 11:37:37 PM »

Your Ph.D. will be worthless in the U.S. and almost worthless in Korea. It's an unfortunate truth and I'm not too fond of it, but that's how it is.
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« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2010, 06:21:17 PM »

Your input was appreciated. I decided to come here to UTA and now I know it was a good decision. I was reluctant to come here at first but your replies encouraged me. Thank you.

 
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« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2010, 06:27:16 AM »

If you have the possibility to do so, then I would definitely recommend doing your Ph.D. in the States.

If you want to do your Ph.D. in Korea, then make sure to select an advisor with a good international reputation. I would also recommend selecting an advisor who obtained his/her Ph.D. degree in a Western country. Advisors who obtained their Ph.D. degree in Korea often have a very different mindset in my opinion, even when they spent some years abroad later on. I would also recommend selecting a young advisor.

Also, make sure to publish your research results in reputable and internationally referreed journals. That will definitely be beneficial when people are questioning the validity of your Korean Ph.D. degree. A lot of Korean professors tend to publish in domestic journals, Japanese journals, or in questionable journals that are at the bottom of the international totem pole, circumventing peer reviews. A similar remark holds true for submissions to international conferences.

The reputation of Korean Ph.D. degrees is not that great. I have for example personally witnessed how a Korean professor at one of the "top universities" used Master students to do the research and the paper writing for a Korean businessman.
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« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2010, 05:43:52 AM »

You're making the right decision. UTA is a fine school.
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« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2010, 06:48:57 PM »

I'm doing my PhD at a tier-1 Korean university. I am one amongst a quickly growing cohort of international grad students, and am very satisfied with the level of instruction and support we receive. Lots of funding through the department and BK21, many opportunities for research, presenting at confs here in Seoul and publishing. Also, the research environment in Korea is very dynamic, so there are a lot of opportunities here for someone willing to work hard and do their best.

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« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2010, 09:29:38 AM »

Thanks Thiuda for posting. What I'm noticing is that it does not matter much where you got your PhD but how many papers you got published in peer-reviewed journals.

A number of my fellow colleagues with degrees from America/Europe are no better than the Asian academicians. Things are changing a lot in the world, and it wouldn't surprise me that the best university in the world in 30-40 years from now will be a Chinese/Asian university.
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« Reply #11 on: November 28, 2010, 09:36:29 AM »

The value of a Phd from a Korean university depends greatly on a)your field b) the university c)where do you want to teach afterwards.  Obviously, if you are getting a Phd in Korean lit vs. a Phd in physics, the calculations would be different.

However, OP wants to teach in the US afterwards?  Then go to a US uni.
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« Reply #12 on: November 28, 2010, 09:53:20 AM »

It wouldn't surprise me that the best university in the world in 30-40 years from now will be a Chinese/Asian university.


In 30-40, or 300-400 years for that matter, the best university in the world will be either an ancient British university or an Ivy. To think otherwise is idiocy.
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« Reply #13 on: November 28, 2010, 08:36:29 PM »

It wouldn't surprise me that the best university in the world in 30-40 years from now will be a Chinese/Asian university.


In 30-40, or 300-400 years for that matter, the best university in the world will be either an ancient British university or an Ivy. To think otherwise is idiocy.

Could not agree more! I don't think it will even be that long.
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« Reply #14 on: November 28, 2010, 08:40:59 PM »

It wouldn't surprise me that the best university in the world in 30-40 years from now will be a Chinese/Asian university.


In 30-40, or 300-400 years for that matter, the best university in the world will be either an ancient British university or an Ivy. To think otherwise is idiocy.
Perhaps.  But that's another debate and not OP's question.
Could not agree more! I don't think it will even be that long.
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