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« Reply #30 on: February 06, 2010, 02:45:23 PM » |
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I can't get the link to the job ad to work. Lecturers sometimes refer to jobs where there are no research expections (think instructor). This is quite different than the term used in other commonwealth countries.
As to pay for TT faculty (ie assistant prof), starting in Sciences is $75K (we don't do 9 month salary so that is per year). No idea for other areas.
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« Reply #31 on: February 06, 2010, 03:58:48 PM » |
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The "sounds like . . unfounded opinions" were actually pretty rare. You asked about the title lecturer at Canadian institutions. Several of us with experience at Canadian institutions told you what lecturer means at the Canadian institutions we know about.
Either that, or llanfair and the others and I are all idiots talking through our necks. One of those.
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« Reply #32 on: February 06, 2010, 04:21:01 PM » |
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The "sounds like . . unfounded opinions" were actually pretty rare. You asked about the title lecturer at Canadian institutions. Several of us with experience at Canadian institutions told you what lecturer means at the Canadian institutions we know about.
Either that, or llanfair and the others and I are all idiots talking through our necks. One of those.
No, you folks are correct. I'm late joining in, but at MY Canadian institution (and from my experience at several US institutions), the breakdown is (Canadian on the left/American on the right - hee!): adjunct = sessional (term to term renewal depending upon funds and requirements at any given moment) lecturer = VAP (year-to-year position with possibilities of renewal depending upon budget) senior lecturer = long-term VAP (seniority grants some job security and a fair salary according, but research/service expectations remain limited or non-existent) Assistant/Associate/Full Professor = same hierarchy as US (although the tenure clock is typically shorter in Canada) Not sure why mayjohn wasn't hearing/accepting what was being said, but it was pretty clear to me. That could be because I've become more familiar with the system now, though. And because I am not confusing it with the UK model (of which I am almost entirely unfamiliar). |
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« Reply #33 on: February 06, 2010, 08:53:05 PM » |
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Sugaree, well put in all respects. And you, Ursula.
Back to forming unfounded opinions, in this case about students' plagiarism.
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« Reply #34 on: February 07, 2010, 08:21:05 AM » |
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Yeah, that was pretty condescending.
And speaking of condescending, the easiest way to make an unfounded opinion founded, MayJohn, is to just check the website yourself. HR trades in facts all the time. It was really, really simple.
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« Reply #35 on: February 07, 2010, 10:54:38 AM » |
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Maybe Mayjohn just thinks the Canucks are a bit dim? That sometimes occurs with Americans who are "forced" to consider and/or take jobs here. (Not generalizing, just speaking from experience of some of my ex-pat colleagues. The Americans on the fora are generally terrific!).
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« Reply #36 on: February 07, 2010, 12:20:17 PM » |
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Maybe Mayjohn just thinks the Canucks are a bit dim? That sometimes occurs with Americans who are "forced" to consider and/or take jobs here. (Not generalizing, just speaking from experience of some of my ex-pat colleagues. The Americans on the fora are generally terrific!).
I'm glad your idiotic ex-pat colleagues didn't give us all a bad name for you. I love working at a Canadian university, and in fact turned down 2 US offers to do so. |
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« Reply #37 on: February 07, 2010, 05:50:15 PM » |
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Maybe it's just my "unfounded opinion," but a very cursory glance at our collective agreement suggests that we use the Lecturer title for hiring someone who is still ABD. There might be more to it; maybe I'll look again later when I have time.
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« Reply #38 on: February 07, 2010, 08:06:43 PM » |
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Maybe Mayjohn just thinks the Canucks are a bit dim? That sometimes occurs with Americans who are "forced" to consider and/or take jobs here. (Not generalizing, just speaking from experience of some of my ex-pat colleagues. The Americans on the fora are generally terrific!).
I'm glad your idiotic ex-pat colleagues didn't give us all a bad name for you. I love working at a Canadian university, and in fact turned down 2 US offers to do so. You chose well, JaneDoh! |
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« Reply #39 on: February 08, 2010, 01:24:34 AM » |
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Maybe Mayjohn just thinks the Canucks are a bit dim? That sometimes occurs with Americans who are "forced" to consider and/or take jobs here. (Not generalizing, just speaking from experience of some of my ex-pat colleagues. The Americans on the fora are generally terrific!).
I'm glad your idiotic ex-pat colleagues didn't give us all a bad name for you. I love working at a Canadian university, and in fact turned down 2 US offers to do so. Agreed. I would love to work in Canada. I've applied for Canadian jobs in each of the last three years, and I've gotten three interviews. So far nothing has panned out, but there is always next year! |
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If you want to be zen, then stay in the freaking moment.
A lot of the people posting on this thread need to go out and get kohlrabi.
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« Reply #40 on: February 08, 2010, 11:06:38 AM » |
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Maybe Mayjohn just thinks the Canucks are a bit dim? That sometimes occurs with Americans who are "forced" to consider and/or take jobs here. (Not generalizing, just speaking from experience of some of my ex-pat colleagues. The Americans on the fora are generally terrific!).
I'm glad your idiotic ex-pat colleagues didn't give us all a bad name for you. I love working at a Canadian university, and in fact turned down 2 US offers to do so. Agreed. I would love to work in Canada. I've applied for Canadian jobs in each of the last three years, and I've gotten three interviews. So far nothing has panned out, but there is always next year! TRB, we'd admire to have you here. |
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