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[pastafarian]

Anyone out there work or have experience of the University of Toronto Mississauga?  I know Toronto and UT quite well, but know little or nothing about this place.  Is it R1 or thereabouts?  Any reasonable comparative institutions south of the border?  Good things, bad things?

Thanks!

[ursula]

I'm not really sure what R1 means, since it's not a designation used in Canada.  But picture the Ohio State U campuses that are outside Columbus, and you'll have the general idea.

[cranefly]

It's part of the U of T system. It's a satellite campus. Mississauga is suburban sprawl, about 30 minutes drive into downtown Toronto, depending on traffic.

U of T is one of the top universities in Canada. As has been pointed out, we don't use designations like 'R1'. Nearly all major universities in Canada are research universities, though.

[history_grrrl]

Nearly all major universities in Canada are research universities, though.

And some minor universities too, at least in the "wishful thinking" sense (yes, I'm looking at you, administrators who think we can be research universities while downsizing our library collections to make way for coffee bars).

[galway]

UTM is part of U of T and would qualify as something analogous to an R1 in the states.  It has some excellent faculty (at least in my field).  It's a much smaller academic community than the downtown campus but there's a shuttle bus between campuses and it's possible to participate in at least some of the things happening downtown.  It is in a lot of suburban sprawl but there are some lovely areas nearby, you can access the offerings of Toronto, and housing is a lot cheaper out that way than near downtown.  I think it might not be quite as exciting as working on the St. George campus but it's definitely a great school with a strong research faculty (IMHO).

[ursula]

Nearly all major universities in Canada are research universities, though.

And some minor universities too, at least in the "wishful thinking" sense (yes, I'm looking at you, administrators who think we can be research universities while downsizing our library collections to make way for coffee bars).

You know, H-G, more and more I'm starting to think we're at the same place :)  Our library has a lovely new coffee bar, but has cancelled a lot of journal subscriptions.

[losemygrip]

In my field the UTM faculty are listed on the UT main campus's website.  So when you go to the department and click on faculty, it includes the Mississauga people.  They evidently teach or are available to the grad students at the main campus.  Alternatively, the students at the main campus may be able to easily take and transfer classes at the satellite campus.  My impression is that it is truly considered a "branch" campus, and not a different school in the "system."

[llanfair]

Nearly all major universities in Canada are research universities, though.

And some minor universities too, at least in the "wishful thinking" sense (yes, I'm looking at you, administrators who think we can be research universities while downsizing our library collections to make way for coffee bars).

You know, H-G, more and more I'm starting to think we're at the same place :)  Our library has a lovely new coffee bar, but has cancelled a lot of journal subscriptions.

We're all at the same Canadian university.  In fact, there's only one Canadian university - they just don't want us to know that.

[zookers]

Another thing about the University of Toronto satellite campuses (Mississauga and Scarborough) is that faculty from the main campus teach at each. 

These two have been expanding a lot over the last decade.  I believe Scarborough has doubled its student population, and likely so have Mississauga.  It used to be that they were "colleges" of the University, as with the divisions on the downtown campus.  Now, they're very much universities in their own right.

[verbena]

Another thing about the University of Toronto satellite campuses (Mississauga and Scarborough) is that [some of the] faculty from the main campus teach at each. 

This depends on the discipline, and sometimes on particular negotiations after an offer is made. 

[mayjohn]

So in Canada (read in the HR section) if you get hired as a Lecturer (yearly renewable contract) and work for five years they decide if they will promote you to Senior Lecturer. Is the Sr. Lecturer equivalent to Assistant Prof and then you are in TT  or, there is no "track" but from Lecturer to Senior Lecturer is the US equivalent of Assistant to Associate?

Any ideas how much such jobs pay?

[obprof]

All the Canadian schools that I am familiar with use the same titles as American schools; Assistant Professor, Associate Professor, and Professor. The title "Lecturer" means someone who is not tenure-track. It is not the same system as in other Commonwealth countries.

OP: I heard about a year ago that U of T plans to reorganize its campuses so that graduate education will take place downtown (St. George campus) and undergraduate education will take place at Scarborough and Mississauga. I would inquire about this.

[goldfinch]

All the Canadian schools that I am familiar with use the same titles as American schools; Assistant Professor, Associate Professor, and Professor. The title "Lecturer" means someone who is not tenure-track. It is not the same system as in other Commonwealth countries.

Yep, but a key difference is many have a 5 year tenure clock, so do ask about this for t-t jobs.

[cranefly]

So in Canada (read in the HR section) if you get hired as a Lecturer (yearly renewable contract) and work for five years they decide if they will promote you to Senior Lecturer. Is the Sr. Lecturer equivalent to Assistant Prof and then you are in TT  or, there is no "track" but from Lecturer to Senior Lecturer is the US equivalent of Assistant to Associate?

Any ideas how much such jobs pay?

I'm in Canada and I've never heard of that. We don't have 'lecturer' or 'senior lecturer' positions. Do you mean the UK?
At my university, the tenure clock is 6 years, which is standard in Canada.

[mayjohn]

So in Canada (read in the HR section) if you get hired as a Lecturer (yearly renewable contract) and work for five years they decide if they will promote you to Senior Lecturer. Is the Sr. Lecturer equivalent to Assistant Prof and then you are in TT  or, there is no "track" but from Lecturer to Senior Lecturer is the US equivalent of Assistant to Associate?

Any ideas how much such jobs pay?

I'm in Canada and I've never heard of that. We don't have 'lecturer' or 'senior lecturer' positions. Do you mean the UK?
At my university, the tenure clock is 6 years, which is standard in Canada.

https://utoronto.taleo.net/careersection/10050/jobdetail.ftl