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oioioi
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« on: January 11, 2010, 12:27:41 PM »

Had a phone interview for job 1 and was told that I would be contacted about an on-campus interview, and that that contact would happen by last week.  No word as yet, although they said explicitly that they'd let me know one way or the other.  In the interim I've received another offer (job 2).  Should I contact the job 1 SC to tell them, when I don't even know if I've made the phone interview cut?  I don't want to sound presumptuous, but I'd delay making a decision on job 2 if I were granted an interview for job 1.

Thanks for any advice!
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« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2010, 12:51:39 PM »

Yes. I unequivocally give you permission to contact the SC at job 1.
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« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2010, 01:14:50 PM »

Absolutely.  This is one of only two scenarios I know of (the other being winning a MacArthur grant) in which one should contract all SC's immediately.

"Dear SCC,

I'm writing to let you know that I've received a job offer from another school.  However, I enjoyed our telephone interview very much and would be very interested in pursuing my candidacy at Potlatch U.  If you could let me know the current status of my candidacy, that would be helpful indeed.

Sincerely,
Prof. Oi"
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« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2010, 03:24:57 PM »

Thanks!
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« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2010, 02:14:57 AM »

Good luck. It is not likely that University 1 will be able to come to a decision before you have to give University 2 an answer. You may have a tough decision ahead.
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« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2010, 01:01:03 PM »

Good luck. It is not likely that University 1 will be able to come to a decision before you have to give University 2 an answer. You may have a tough decision ahead.

grrrrrrr.  That is the toughest part of all this being on the job market thing.  I wish there were some more universal dates, like those set by the Council of Graduate Schools and Council on Graduate Medical Education for students.  No one entering grad school has to make a decision before April 15.  All the recruitment is done mostly over the preceding two months.  Oh how that would make job searcing so much easier.
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« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2010, 01:03:09 PM »

Good luck. It is not likely that University 1 will be able to come to a decision before you have to give University 2 an answer. You may have a tough decision ahead.

grrrrrrr.  That is the toughest part of all this being on the job market thing.  I wish there were some more universal dates, like those set by the Council of Graduate Schools and Council on Graduate Medical Education for students.  No one entering grad school has to make a decision before April 15.  All the recruitment is done mostly over the preceding two months.  Oh how that would make job searcing so much easier.

It would--but it would make hiring more difficult!
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« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2010, 01:50:48 PM »

I wish there were some more universal dates, like those set by the Council of Graduate Schools and Council on Graduate Medical Education for students.  No one entering grad school has to make a decision before April 15.  All the recruitment is done mostly over the preceding two months.  Oh how that would make job searcing so much easier.

It would--but it would make hiring more difficult!

But why should the job market make things easier for the hiring institutions? What does it exist for, if not to serve the professional aspirations of budding scholars?
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« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2010, 02:49:29 PM »

I wish there were some more universal dates, like those set by the Council of Graduate Schools and Council on Graduate Medical Education for students.  No one entering grad school has to make a decision before April 15.  All the recruitment is done mostly over the preceding two months.  Oh how that would make job searcing so much easier.

Ah yes -- but as a former DGS, I can tell you that people say "yes" at 9 a.m. on April 15th, call back to say "no" at 11 a.m., next person on the list (well actually 16th person, since there have already been turn-downs) is actually reached at 12:30 and says they'll call back, which they do at 3:00 to say "no," by which time . . .

With incoming grad students, all there is to negotiate is: fellowship or TAship? TAship or RA position? How big is the stipend? What benefits are covered?  In most cases, the negotiations with an individual faculty member take at least a week to discuss all the issues, (space, equipment, teaching schedule/load, research money, salary, early leave, money for conferences, reduced load, start-up funds, etc.) even if there isn't anything complicated such as spouse line involved. And while grad directors know what can be done -- it's usually set in stone -- department chairs have to go to the dean, sometimes to facilities management, often the provost, sometimes have a talk with the union or the legal officer - - - and at a university such as mine, which is big enough that across campus and professional schools, 80 or 90 TT faculty are being hired every year . . . . can you imagine doing all of this within even the last two weeks of April? Wouldn't work!
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« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2010, 03:06:23 PM »

OK, larry, trb, and seniorscholar.  You've brought up everything I have not had the ...er..pleasure(?) to experience from the other side yet.  I was just thinking from the on-the-market, trying to GET hired perspective.  I can see how those timelines would be very difficult to manage. 
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« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2010, 05:01:31 PM »

Well, turns out that I didn't make the top 3 getting campus interviews anyway.  I was told I was a close fourth, but they probably tell everyone that.  So no difficult choices after all!

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