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tenured_feminist
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« Reply #15 on: January 06, 2010, 09:37:10 AM »

Ah, but you've all missed the real point. Pubtoboot, whatever you do about the paper, the grade, your anxieties about reentry, and your career, just make sure you thank your professor profusely for assisting you on the draft in the author's note published with the article.

As for grading, I've often recommended R&Rs for articles that I'd have graded as A-. Occasionally, I've recommended an R&R for what would have been a B+ paper because the idea was innovative and I could see readily how the author could refine it into A level work. One thing that's not clear from the OP or discussion afterward is what version of the paper was graded (pre or post R&R). But regardless, the OP is likely to do much better for herself by sending her prof an offprint or PDF of the published piece with a cover note thanking the prof again for commenting on the paper and helping to get it into publishable shape (obviously with no mention of the course grade in the note). As a prof, I would be ever so delighted to receive such a package from one of my students (even without any cover note at all), regardless of the course grade I'd assigned.
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« Reply #16 on: January 06, 2010, 11:00:58 AM »

I'd personally hope to get a B+, or even worse!

Just think, when you're teaching a course, and some bratty snowflake is getting set to appeal one of your grades, then you can tell them about the time you had a paper published, got the Nobel prize, and your professor gave you a C and you nearly lost your fellowship. And that you found that completely fair.
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« Reply #17 on: January 06, 2010, 11:16:42 AM »

But in the end, this whole conversation is moot, because A) neither us, nor the OP, are teaching this course, and B) the OP's grades don't really matter.

The whole conversation is moot because I don't care if you agree that someone who wants to manipulate a professor into awarding a grade on their terms is a bad student.
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« Reply #18 on: January 06, 2010, 07:14:12 PM »

I'd personally hope to get a B+, or even worse!

Just think, when you're teaching a course, and some bratty snowflake is getting set to appeal one of your grades, then you can tell them about the time you had a paper published, got the Nobel prize, and your professor gave you a C and you nearly lost your fellowship. And that you found that completely fair.

Maya Lin's design for The Wall was originally a class project--for which she apparently did NOT receive an A.
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« Reply #19 on: January 06, 2010, 07:46:20 PM »

You should also demand a Pulitzer. One cannot be shy about these matters.
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« Reply #20 on: January 06, 2010, 08:11:29 PM »

You should also demand a Pulitzer. One cannot be shy about these matters.

Well since larryc brought it up...  that is exactly what a *star* would do.  The meek might inherit the earth, but the person aware of her own worth and not shy about announcing it, gets the R1 tenure track job!

Go balls out!
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« Reply #21 on: January 07, 2010, 12:50:53 AM »

I just got a seminar paper, which I finished early in the semester, accepted for publication . It is a journal published by a very reputable (even 'prestigious') press, although the journal itself is not that prestigious. (the blind review process had taken two months ... I was exceptionally quick)

I am a little concerned about my grade though. If I got anything less than an A-, should I appeal? I do not want to come across as arrogant .... but I am really concerned.

How likely do you think this is going to happen?
The professor likely knew my eagerness to get a good grade. He went over my initial draft and gave me some good feedback.

Sorry for being blunt, but this sounds like the scheming of an undergraduate because of the inordinate amount of value placed on the GPA.  GPA obsession is a red flag.

Your situation is very similar to an experience I had when I was in grad school.  A prof helped me with my paper before submission to a lower-tier, but respectable publication.  The paper was accepted for publication, but I got a "B" in the course. 

I didn't get upset about the "B" I earned for the class.  Why?  A publication credit in a refereed publication is worth much more than an "A" in any course.  I was too elated to care about the difference between a "B" and an "A" because when a grad student starts to get published, grades matter less and less.  My prof seemed to be happy about the publication, too.  It would have been an affront to the professor who helped me if I quibbled about the grade in hu class, and it would have looked like my priorities were out-of-whack.  Both are career killers.

BTW, I got lots of grades in the "B" range in grad school.  It didn't stop me from landing a good TT track job.  The SC didn't even mention my GPA, but they did mention my publication. 
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