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« Reply #45 on: January 25, 2010, 12:48:25 AM »

The therapy appointment is this week.  I think I've figured out my trigger, and if it sounds preposterous, let me know.  I just turned 40.  I consider myself a failure in many respects, most of which fall outside the realm of work.  Upon turning 40 in mid-November, I've become incredibly morbid and think about death all the time.  I constantly calculate years: "20 years ago I was in college; 20 years from now I'll be a senior citizen."  This is daily, since my birthday.  I've also been mourning the passage of my life, and how it seems that nothing new or great will ever happen to me again.  Crying?  Yes.  Imagining the end of my life?  Yes.  The mantra going through my head since November has been "My best years are behind me.  I'll be dead soon.  It will hurt."  Perhaps a month and a half of these constant thoughts triggered my first panic attack?   Or does this sound like a mid-life crisis?  Can a mid-life crisis spark panic disorder? 

This is not ridiculous, but I think it's a symptom of your underlying anxiety, not the trigger.  I am working through the very same issues and therapy is helping.  I'm on medical leave now (as of Wed. last), and my GP is working on getting me to sleep (added imovane to my paxil) while my therapist is working on getting me to recognize the issues.  No panic attacks the past few days, but big fight with SO last night led to little sleep even with the sleeping pill.  I do have tenure, so not worried about that, but there are other work issues.

Totally not fun.  Hoping for good sleep tonight.  Had to do the breathing exercises to get to sleep last night.  I've PM'd grimple a couple of times, but it's time to delurk on this thread.

I agree that this sounds like the wider underlying system of anxiety--the set-up for the escalation into a full-scale panic attack. The point of my post yesterday is that the trigger can be kind of random, actually--and sometimes something physical. This is what Latico is pointing to also, with the alcohol. I watched this happen with my MIL all the time; the acceleration in heart rate cause by using her albuterol inhaler could trigger a full-on panic attack. It was as if her bodily response just took over, since the underlying anxiety was already there. In my case, the combination of albuterol and terribly low blood sugar almost precipitated me into a full-scale panic attack; I literally think I was just moments away, and only escaped it because of the combination of breathing techniques I have learned for dealing with the anxiety, and the fact that I (dimly) recognized what was happening to me.
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« Reply #46 on: January 25, 2010, 07:55:55 AM »

I agree that this sounds like the wider underlying system of anxiety--the set-up for the escalation into a full-scale panic attack. The point of my post yesterday is that the trigger can be kind of random, actually--and sometimes something physical.

Yes.

What you're going to discover is a nasty Bermuda Triangle of reasons for panic. Underlying stress (my marriage is falling apart, and has been for years), coupled with immediate environmental stresses (I should have gotten enough sleep last night; I shouldn't be relaxing, too much to do), coupled with triggers (I took the escalator instead of the stairs).... and bam! off the deep end!

Triggers often seem to be very, very random. Innocuous little things that should not engender fear, but do. That's what a panic attack is, after all: an unreasonably strong fight-or-flight response to something that is not a threat, but which our bodies and minds is convinced is threatening anyway.

I wrote above that triggers only seem to be random, because they're not actually random at all. We usually have one or more triggers that cause panic again and again and again. And they are most often ridiculous. Logically, I know that inclined walking surfaces are not predatory. I know this. And yet... 

And yes, our bodily functions can very easily be triggers. One common element with many of my triggers is that they make me light-headed. Getting up from a seating position too quickly, low blood sugar, turning around quickly - anything that disorients me is a possible trigger. I haven't responded to all of these with panic, though, and so not everything that causes light headedness has become a trigger. But once I do, I'm more likely to in the future.

Here's where CBT is most helpful, in my experience: it not only teaches you how to manage a full-fledged panic attack. It also teaches you how to stop anxiety from escalating into panic. So if a particular physical condition is consistent in most of your triggers, and if that physical condition (like my light headedness) becomes present in a new situation, and if I start to feel anxiety, I have a series of tools at my disposal to stop the anxiety before it escalates. Because of this I am less likely to develop new triggers.

Other therapy can be helpful in reducing the underlying stress that makes you  more prone to panic in the first place. But those stresses are not triggers. They make you prone to triggers.
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« Reply #47 on: August 30, 2010, 08:10:04 AM »

I saw a new thread on anxiety and thought I'd update here.


I was never able to figure out what my triggers were, but I did find that exercise, sleep, and avoiding all caffeine and alcohol helped (thank you everyone who posted here and PM'd me about that).  I'm happy to report that since June, I've been panic free, and I mean not even a hint of panic.  This has been so incredibly relieving and liberating, I can't describe it!   The fix seems to be drugs for my overactive thyroid.  Back in May, I went through numerous blood and other tests, partly in order to appease my husband who had just learned he has serious heart disease.  Test results were normal except for TSH - thyroid stimulating hormone.  After more tests, the endocrinologist determined I have Graves' Disease, a kind of hyperthyroidism.  She said that the sudden onset of panic attacks that I'd experienced could very well have been caused by this.  I'm now on thyroid medication and a beta blocker, and I feel better than I have in years.  Physically and mentally, I feel clear and calm.  I'd been worried about taking Xanax every day for the panic, but I don't take any now. 

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