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Author Topic: Dropping out of phd program just before defense?  (Read 3485 times)
dellaroux
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« Reply #15 on: December 21, 2009, 10:10:55 PM »

I found an unpublished work in the manuals for the French church I work on (article in process).

A friend cautioned me against asking one particular scholar for help in working on it. 

They thought it was reasonable to be concerned that it could every easily show up on that scholar's bibliography before it made it onto mine.
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« Reply #16 on: December 22, 2009, 07:49:32 PM »

A friend of mine just quit hu's doctoral program, just before hu's defense. The reason:

Friend had made a significant and very important discovery in hu's field and made that the centrepiece of hu's dissertation and research program. One week before hu's defense, hu was reading a journal in the language of the country where the material which the dissertation research was focused on (dissertation was in english, though) and there on the page was the same very important discovery (it had the nature of discovering something in the history of the discipline in that country). Friend couldn't see how hu could defend hu's dissertation honestly as a very significant discovery, since someone else had made that discovery at the same time as hu, but had published it before hu.

Starting all over was not an option for friend as hu had taken eight years to do the research. Cancelling the defense, of course, was an option. But then what?

What would you do if you were me and heard this story? if you were the friend?

If I was the friend, at my defense I would say:

"Coincidentally and independently, Professor Smartypants at Dingo University made the same discovery that I dod of Iron Age basketweaving techniques in Atlantis by studying smoke signals. My own independent discovery confirms Smartypants's."

I don't see the problem, but like others I suspect more is going on. The only justifiable reasons to quit a ph.d. that I can think of are:

1. Ethics (e.g., your supervisor kills pandas)
2. Money (e.g., the university suddenly raised tuition by 500% and cut your funding)
3. Personal reasons (e.g., my home town is about to be obliterated by a meteor so I need to go with Bruce Willis to destroy it)
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« Reply #17 on: December 22, 2009, 10:40:13 PM »


If I was the friend, at my defense I would say:

"Coincidentally and independently, Professor Smartypants at Dingo University made the same discovery that I dod of Iron Age basketweaving techniques in Atlantis by studying smoke signals. My own independent discovery confirms Smartypants's."

Wrong order.
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« Reply #18 on: December 22, 2009, 10:54:17 PM »


If I was the friend, at my defense I would say:

"Coincidentally and independently, Professor Smartypants at Dingo University made the same discovery that I dod of Iron Age basketweaving techniques in Atlantis by studying smoke signals. My own independent discovery confirms Smartypants's."

Wrong order.

Very good point.
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« Reply #19 on: December 22, 2009, 10:56:33 PM »

Maybe you friend quit because he or she was named "hu." I mean, how embarrassing. It is not even a word.

Although I have not completely "eschewed the hu," I have to admit this made me laugh out loud.
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