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mystictechgal
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« Reply #150 on: October 17, 2010, 12:12:31 AM »

I hadn't thought about calling him in for clarification on the paper. Thanks for the advice, mystictechgal!

Hope it works. I'm not a prof, and have never had to do this, but the advice comes thanks to my reading here and the advice I have seen given by a number of profs over the past few years. Given who I have seen it come from, I think it is valid advice. It's just not really mine; I'm acting as a parrot.

Shouldn't invalidate it, though. I have had excellent teachers here on these fora. I just happened to parrot it first.

Good luck!
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« Reply #151 on: October 17, 2010, 09:50:11 AM »

Calling the student into the office for a conversation is a required step at my campus in investigation of plagiarism, so it is crucial to clarify if there is a required process at your (or any) campus.  When I first had to do so, I researched how to handle it and found good advice in CHE articles and elsewhere.  All affirmed my angst, saying that it is the most worrisome step from the prof's perspective.  But it need not be, with planning ahead. 

My best advice would be to write down the questions to ask of the student -- based on the content of the question and answer, as if it were a classroom conversation on the topic, not an investigation of plagiarism.  I.e., what was your source for that answer?  In several such conversations, my experience has been the same as the tales told in the advice that I read:  The plagiarism becomes evident, quite quickly.  Not that the student realizes it, in many cases.  For example, in the last such conversation I had with a student whose plagiarism on a paper was obvious, word for word, the question about the source elicited "I'm not sure; it must have been from the book."  So we looked through the book; nope.  Other readings; nope.  Finally, I googled one of the phrases, and up came -- as well I knew -- the word-for-word passage on a website.

Then, the student's defense was, well, that must have been part of what my frat brothers found for me, or maybe my father, because they all "helped" with the research, and we sort of all did the paper together.

Bingo:  Another definition of plagiarism, putting one's name on work done by others. . . .  By the end of the conversation, the student had unwittingly admitted to several different aspects of the campus definition.  After that, the rest was just weeks and weeks of paperwork, prolonged by a threatened appeal, but it never happened.  It would have been a slam-dunk, anyway, based on that crucial office conversation.  (And, btw, I made sure to have a witness, the TA, with us.)
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« Reply #152 on: November 04, 2010, 11:34:46 AM »

"Ergo."

"Beckon."

I'm two for two today.
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« Reply #153 on: November 04, 2010, 02:03:13 PM »

"Adiabatic"
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« Reply #154 on: November 04, 2010, 02:07:08 PM »

What about "drawings they COULDN'T have done" and passed off as their own? The thing is, while I strongly strongly suspect that this student is using someone's drawing as his own, there is no way to prove it. Boo.

Unsure what to do.
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« Reply #155 on: November 04, 2010, 03:30:57 PM »

"Multifarious"

Dang. I liked this student, too.
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« Reply #156 on: November 04, 2010, 06:55:03 PM »

What about "drawings they COULDN'T have done" and passed off as their own? The thing is, while I strongly strongly suspect that this student is using someone's drawing as his own, there is no way to prove it. Boo.

Unsure what to do.

Ask them to sketch in front of you?
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