sunanoonna
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« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2010, 10:25:50 PM » |
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Oops, I mean that I feel sorta bad about HAVING to spring it on them...
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drpud
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« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2010, 02:42:38 PM » |
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Good luck either way, sunanoonna. Please do come back and report!! Hope things work out for you.
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I agree with DrPud.
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sunanoonna
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« Reply #17 on: February 03, 2010, 05:05:20 PM » |
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I got the offer on Friday! Currently negotiating ... more info when I can.
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« Reply #18 on: February 03, 2010, 05:22:11 PM » |
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congrats!
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Your environment sounds vaguely toxic. Or maybe just characteristically British.
I heart august_leo.
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« Reply #19 on: February 05, 2010, 03:27:21 AM » |
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Congrats! You must be thrilled. I would love to hear how your negotiations went at some point. Hope things work out for you and your partner!!
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I agree with DrPud.
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larryc
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« Reply #20 on: February 05, 2010, 08:22:48 AM » |
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Keep in mind that it is very likely that someone in your new department is reading this and has identified you. Be polite and diplomatic here.
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sunanoonna
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« Reply #21 on: February 15, 2010, 01:05:42 PM » |
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I can't quite believe it but I just turned a tenure-track job down. The people were very very nice but the administration was totally unwilling to budge on negotiations (in this job climate I guess they don't have to). The most they were willing to do for my husband was "maybe" one adjunct class next spring, plus the teaching load there was higher than I was expecting (3/3/3), the pay much lower, and as I knew the location fairly awful. Staying at my current non-tt position ultimately was the better option for me and my family.
So, to answer my OP, "sensitive" type wording in job ads appears to mean more or less nothing, as we expected.
As to the dilemma of whether or not to reveal the existence of a spouse during the interview, is it possible that if I had done so, they would have had time to put together an offer for my husband? Nothing they said to me indicated such a thing was remotely possible, so probably not mentioning it was the best play in this case and most cases.
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« Reply #22 on: February 15, 2010, 09:36:54 PM » |
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Sorry it didn't work out, Sunanoonna. As for turning down an offer - if you feel that you did the right thing, than you definitely were right to turn the job down. Good luck in your continuing job search and in finding a good solution for your two-body problem (have the same problem, so I know the frustrations).
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For the Snark was a Boojum, you see.
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larryc
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« Reply #23 on: February 15, 2010, 10:01:45 PM » |
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So, to answer my OP, "sensitive" type wording in job ads appears to mean more or less nothing, as we expected.
That is awful and wrong. You should out them--either right here or in the "Universities to Fear" wiki. |
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« Reply #24 on: February 19, 2010, 10:19:25 AM » |
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So, to answer my OP, "sensitive" type wording in job ads appears to mean more or less nothing, as we expected.
I worried about this. I'm nervous, myself, about "sensitivity" language. I wouldn't say it was a sham, however. My guess is that some member (or more) in the department really are open to finding ways to employ spouses or do job shares or etc., particularly if it allows them to draw and retain really interesting colleagues. But the admin. - particularly in this buyer's market - is not. |
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« Reply #25 on: April 02, 2010, 10:43:47 PM » |
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Okay, I know it's long over... But I just lost a job to a spousal hire. This school is also "sensitive" to the issue, rural, South. It made me wonder if the OP was the person I knew about.
So 'sensitive' sometimes means they will look at a spousal hire and as long as the spouse can meet accreditation requirements, even if they have never taught the main service course in their life, they will hire you both.
No, I'm not bitter, exactly.
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« Reply #26 on: April 04, 2010, 12:18:15 PM » |
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Aww, sorry it didn't work out for you compdoc. But how do you know this? Did they tell you?
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